http://klauspood.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] klauspood.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] davis_square2011-12-08 12:42 pm
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Proposed new charter school

There is a proposal for a new charter school in Somerville. The state (DESE) will be reviewing the application for the next few weeks and will possibly grant the charter on February 28th. If granted this charter school will undermine the existing Somerville Public Schools by reducing school funding by nearly $5 million a year, which is almost 10% of the current school budget. This cut in funding will lead to devastating cuts in public school programs, loss of 60 -75 teachers, and potentially closure of an entire school. This would represent a huge set back for public education in Somerville, setting back much of the progress that has been made in our schools in the last 25 years.

There will be a public hearing by the DESE on this on December 14 2011 at Somerville High School. More info can be found at:
https://sites.google.com/site/progresstogetherforsomerville
http://www.thesomervillenews.com/archives/21168
http://www.doe.mass.edu/news/news.aspx?id=6532

The school system is failing the families of those who are working to create this new school.

[identity profile] turil.livejournal.com 2011-12-08 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
These families want better education for their kids and so they are doing something about it, having given up on getting the superintendent and the rest of the politicians in the city to do it for them. They are the spirit of DIY!


It's not about scores or tests, it's about education for real life. Mainstream schools are designed to produce "good workers who take orders well". Many parents don't want that for their kids (or anyone's kids really!). You might be happy to let your kids go to such a school, but don't force someone else to, and seriously don't expect the citizens to have to pay for such a thing if they believe it's bad.

And you've entirely missed my point about making the schools MORE useful, MORE alive, MORE valuable rather than letting them "die". I want to see schools being used all the time, by anyone who wants to learn, explore, and share ideas and information about living a great life on this planet and beyond. You might not want that, but I do!

Seriously?

[identity profile] turil.livejournal.com 2011-12-08 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
> Actually its more like "if we can get this charter passed, we can have our own private school and not have to pay for it....screw the rest of 'em".

Do you seriously want to publicly say something like that about people who've invested a huge amount of their time and energy and probably money in making a school that will serve hundreds of kids in a way that they believe is best? Please reconsider, so that you at least sound like you value these families and their interests and needs. :-)

I have not personally gone to Somerville schools, but I've known (and been a nanny for) kids who have. And I saw the effect of the schools on these kids. And it was sad. I even know of one family who was in the Unidos program and did have problems with a teacher. I'm sure the teacher was passionate about their work, but even the most fantastic teacher can't do much when repressed by politics. As a teacher I'm offended by what most teachers and students have to put up with in mainstream schools! (And yes, it is the case that the primary political goal of schools is to produce effective workers. You might not like it, and I hope you don't, but it's the truth.)

My goal is to help all students get the best education possible, based on what they want to learn about and what will help them be the kinds of people they want to become in life. The mainstream schools as they are now are in opposition to that.

And, yes, working together would be great. But as I've pointed out several times already, the superintendent doesn't want to. Thus, the DIY spirit that is so amazing in the Camberville area has been evoked!

Again, if you're happy with the schools the way they are, or even want to just tweak them a little, within the bounds of what the politicians allow you to, go for it. But don't force other families to do the same when they honestly believe that they can do better.

Re: Seriously?

[identity profile] alterfer.livejournal.com 2011-12-09 02:11 pm (UTC)(link)
> > Actually its more like "if we can get this charter passed, we can have our own private school and not have to pay for it....screw the rest of 'em".

> Do you seriously want to publicly say something like that about people

Having observed them and heard of their behavior recently, that's exactly how I would characterize them. At a PTA meeting someone recently asked a SPCS (the new charter) supporter giving info at a table, why they didn't want to send their kids to the existing charter school and their response was "Have you seen that place, it's a sea of black faces".

They've sneaked this proposal through without involving the community or making substantive attempts to involve the city and the school committee. A huge number of the very active and civically involved parents in the city were completely blindsided by this. They're trying to steamroll it through without concern for the rest of the community. There are other options whereby they could start a charter under the umbrella of the school committee, but they are butt-hurt that they didn't get their way at the Healy and that is why they are saying "screw you guys, we'll do it anyway, at a heavy cost to the rest of the community". I would not trust any child of mine with these inexperienced dogmatic control freaks.

Seriously, Seriously?!

[identity profile] turil.livejournal.com 2011-12-09 02:24 pm (UTC)(link)
You're trying to claim that a school INTENTIONALLY designed and aimed at serving immigrants is racist? Seriously?

And since the superintendent has already clarified his belief that nothing needs to be changed to meet the needs of these families, then obviously it would be moronic to try to work with the school system to fix the problem. DIY is the best way.

Maybe there is a bit of racism in that one person, but this democratic charter school is the most liberal thing I've ever seen in Somerville, so really, I think you are more likely making it up.

Re: Seriously, Seriously?!

[identity profile] alterfer.livejournal.com 2011-12-09 02:41 pm (UTC)(link)
> You're trying to claim that a school INTENTIONALLY designed and aimed at serving immigrants is racist? Seriously?

Nothing of the sort. Don't twist my words. Firstly, I'm not claiming they're all racist. Secondly, you can be racist against blacks while supportive of immigrants; you don't have to be white anglo to be racist either.

However, this school is definitely not "designed and aimed at serving immigrants". The ELL aspect of the school is *inferior* to that which is currently in Somerville schools, and was tacked on late to give the proposal some weight and chance of success. I think this list archive is open to the public: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/somerville-4-schools/message/3862

> This democratic charter school is the most liberal thing I've ever seen in Somerville

Really!? The most liberal. It's utterly anti-liberal. Don't be lead astray by the "Progressive" in the name - that's a 100 year old educational term and is nothing to do with progressive politics. It's removing education from the control of democratically elected school boards to put public money in private hands. It calls itself "democratic" but then puts hurdles in the way of that democracy (can't run for office without spending time in the classroom) which will make elected office primarily for upper-middle class parents. It's all about dividing the school system into a two tier system for the haves and have-nots - leaving the SPS to pick up the pieces.

Try to see past the propaganda of the proposal and the proposers. For an excellent outline of why this is not the most liberal thing *anyone* has seen recently, read this excellent post: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/somerville-4-schools/message/3851

These questions should be asked of the organizers.

[identity profile] turil.livejournal.com 2011-12-09 02:54 pm (UTC)(link)
If you want to know what they really are trying to do, rather than making assumptions about what they want, ask them. :-) There seems to be a whole lot of jumping to conclusions, rather than actually trying to learn what these folks want and trying to help them get it in a healthy way.

Re: These questions should be asked of the organizers.

[identity profile] alterfer.livejournal.com 2011-12-09 03:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I have been talking to them and following the discussions.

I started out neutral and interested, but every new bit of information I discover has led me to be suspicious and now hostile to their intents. My utter lack of confidence in them and their ability to run a school would be enough on its own for me to object. However, the damage, division and inequity it brings to the city's school system adds to my misgivings.

It's only very recently they've put content on their website in response to the outcry over their secrecy with which they have been trying to push this through. They deny any secrecy, but as I said, the sheer numbers of involved parents who were completely unaware of this application belies that.

Re: These questions should be asked of the organizers.

[identity profile] pekmez.livejournal.com 2011-12-09 06:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm in the same boat as [livejournal.com profile] alterfer. sounds good on the surface, but then the more you dig, the more you read, the more divisive it gets.

Re: The school system is failing the families of those who are working to create this new school.

[personal profile] ron_newman 2011-12-09 05:08 am (UTC)(link)
Do you know that the Healey School curriculum is the same progressive methodology advocated by the proposed charter school?

This strikes me as the weakest of the arguments against the charter school. If the curricular approach that the charter school parents want was already available at the Healey, the founders would have no reason to want to create the charter school.