ext_39660 ([identity profile] two-stabs.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] davis_square2008-09-15 11:51 am

Single issue voter

Hello,

Can someone tell me who caters least to families, children, and "no turn between 7-9 a.m." signs in the upcoming election?

Thanks!

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_mattt/ 2008-09-15 05:44 pm (UTC)(link)
It's the accusation of "mollycoddling" I don't understand.

Besides crossing guards, how else does Somerville "mollycoddle" children?

I'm glad some children have the luxury of walking to school, in which case, I have to condone the use of crossing guards to help them.

[identity profile] thetathx1138.livejournal.com 2008-09-15 05:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Personally, I'd prefer my kid to learn how to push a button and look both ways.

I think you might be working on the somewhat Utopian assumption it's the kids that are the problem, and not idiot drivers. Living as I do near an elementary school and observing the joyous clusterfuck that is the Teele Square intersection every morning, I'm amazed they aren't armed with bazookas by now.

[identity profile] thetathx1138.livejournal.com 2008-09-15 05:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I've nearly been run over three times, with a Walk signal all three times, in the past year. Generally it's some asshole on his cell phone ripping up Broadway. Doesn't happen often, but it happens enough.

[identity profile] thetathx1138.livejournal.com 2008-09-15 06:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it's really used in ways it shouldn't be.

[identity profile] pierceheart.livejournal.com 2008-09-15 06:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Personally, I'd prefer my kid to learn how to push a button and look both ways.

And then there are the drivers who don't stop for uncontrolled (no walk/don't walk lights) crosswalks, no matter how many people are in them ...

[identity profile] pierceheart.livejournal.com 2008-09-15 07:03 pm (UTC)(link)
at least you're an equal opportunity hater ... now, while I get that not everyone sees it, try looking at the pearl st/mcgrath highway intersection, during rush hour, when someone heading westbound on pearl decides they want to turn left into the gas station, but can't, because the eastbound pearl st left hand lane is bumper to bumper, because of someone making the left ONTO mcgrath northbound ... that gas station causes the gridlock, but, it's a useless sign?

[personal profile] ron_newman 2008-09-15 07:05 pm (UTC)(link)
This strikes me as a pretty minor annoyance. People are going slowly enough that this won't cause any accidents.

[identity profile] pierceheart.livejournal.com 2008-09-15 07:08 pm (UTC)(link)
No accidents, you're right.

It does, however, cause a gridlock on a major artery.

when pearl st locks because of eastbound left turns having to yield to the now stopped westbound traffic, waiting for the numbskull who can't make the left turn into the gas station, because the eastbound lane is full with no gaps, because the westbound lane has right of way over the eastbound left hand turn ...

And now the light has changed, and mcgrath has pearl st traffic stuck in the middle of it, because Massachusetts won't enact don't block the box laws with fines.

That's why that turn is illegal.

[personal profile] ron_newman 2008-09-15 07:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd personally like to see McGrath re-designed back into the parkway it was orignally built as. If you continue up Fellsway into Medford and Melrose, you'll see what it should look like.

[identity profile] pierceheart.livejournal.com 2008-09-15 07:17 pm (UTC)(link)
that'll never happen now that's it's become a major artery.

what exactly is your definition of a parkway, so we're working off the same terms?

[personal profile] ron_newman 2008-09-15 07:19 pm (UTC)(link)
A road with trees planted in the median and on either side, easily crossed by pedestrians, not fenced in the middle. Like Fellsway in Medford. That's the same road as McGrath, so whatever works there will work equally as well in Somerville.

[identity profile] pierceheart.livejournal.com 2008-09-15 07:21 pm (UTC)(link)
That could happen I guess.

To actually put trees in the median on that part of mcgrath (wellington circle to medford/highland) would require losing lanes of traffic, though, wouldn't it?

[personal profile] ron_newman 2008-09-15 07:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Probably, but I don't think you need them, since you don't have them up in Medford.

[identity profile] pierceheart.livejournal.com 2008-09-15 07:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, but that part of the fellsway in medford doesn't have the volume due to 16 and 60 feeding to 93, and what it has it loses at wellington circle, and at 93.

Whereas mcgrath picks up that volume from broadway, pearl, and highland/medford, AND from those who haven't left 28 yet.

28 in Medford, IMO isn't the huge artery it is after you go under 93 and pass by foss park.

I live in ten hills, now, used to live in the gilman square triangle, and my g/f used to live off of ball square - I've seen the volume on mcgrath every morning, and it's ridiculous.

[identity profile] boblothrope.livejournal.com 2008-09-15 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you have any information about the former configuration of McGrath? I'm not sure it used to be a parkway.

[identity profile] pierceheart.livejournal.com 2008-09-15 07:11 pm (UTC)(link)
where are you going to put a ramp or road in at this intersection? (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=42.386553,-71.090676&spn=0.001238,0.002414&t=h&z=19)