http://plumice.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] plumice.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] davis_square2009-03-01 04:39 pm
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Graffiti vs. "sign spam"

I read Somerville's graffiti policy and am wondering why they are not as concerned about "sign spam", which is uglier than some of the graffiti I've seen. See an image of sign spam here. The sign spam in Somerville typically is of the "CASH FAST FOR YOUR HOUSE" variety, with the occasional "Meet Singles Online."

The mayor ends the anti-graffiti article with "Thank you for joining us in making Somerville a more beautiful and safer place to live." I tried. Last summer I phoned 311 to report the seven locations where I saw these signs. Was passed around to various offices as they weren't sure who handles this problem. I asked for DPW, but the response there was also "I'm not sure."

I also tried to find out whether posting these signs on utility poles is illegal, and whether it was illegal for me to take them down myself. That's also unclear, but I did go ahead and cut down the ones I could reach. The signs are zip-tied onto utility pole typically about 8' from the ground.

There was no resolution with Somerville DPW, other than the person on the phone there stating it would probably take a work order to have DPW workers take the signs down.

Three months after this call, many of the signs were still up, so I started cutting them down myself, by carrying my branch-lopping tool in the car so I could reach the signs.

Some locations of sign spam last year were:
1. in front of Foodmaster on Beacon St.
2. in front of The Biscuit (Washington St. at Beacon St.)
3. corner of Beacon St. & Durham St.
4. on Somerville Ave. at Mossland St.
5. across from the Target store on Somerville Ave.
6. corner of Broadway & Dexter St.
7. in a residential area on Willow Ave., between Broadway & Kidder

Sign spam is appearing again--I saw three last week, but forgot all the locations. There is currently one on Elm St. near the corner of Russell St.

If you think it's ugly, too, please call Somerville. Maybe if they receive more calls they'll deal with it. It's hard for citizens to get at the signs--I had to stand on top of a large chunk of found concrete (from nearby construction) to cut down the one at Mossland St.--it wasn't easy, and yeah, I could've fallen and hurt myself.

[personal profile] ron_newman 2009-03-01 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I have mixed feelings about this. I think any posting on utility poles is illegal in Somerville -- but such posting is also useful to announce lost and found pets, yard sales, and live music shows at local clubs. I find all of these to be good things, provided that they are taken down after they are no longer valid.

Do you happen to know which realtor is advertising to buy or sell houses?
Edited 2009-03-01 21:52 (UTC)

[identity profile] m00n.livejournal.com 2009-03-01 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I've seen these things too and, in fact, one time while I was out running with my girlfriend I passed by a guy who was stapling these things to a utility pole on Beacon Street and immediately yanked it off and threw it in the trash. This was a "Somerville Singles" sign of the plain-white with 800-number variety. He called me an asshole and immediately replaced the sign with a new one.

Is there anything we can do to report these guys when we see them in action? I.e. should I have taken down his license plate number?

[identity profile] mattdm.livejournal.com 2009-03-02 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
I saw an interesting investigation into the company behind this on some web site a while ago. Can't find it now, though. The bottom line is, of course: they're really sleazy. Surprise!

[identity profile] mattdm.livejournal.com 2009-03-02 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
I remember now -- it was the "Work at 'Home'" ones.

http://www.cockeyed.com/workfromhome/workfromhome_s.html

[personal profile] ron_newman 2009-03-02 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you! I remembered reading that but sure couldn't remember where I read it.

[identity profile] thetathx1138.livejournal.com 2009-03-01 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Probably they're not sure because it depends on the pole the sign is attached to. Streetlights, that's their jurisdiction, no question. Utility poles, it might be up to the utility that maintains them.

[identity profile] thetathx1138.livejournal.com 2009-03-01 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Probably they're zip-tied specifically to avoid the vandalism charge. Also, I'd start with NStar.

[identity profile] rmd.livejournal.com 2009-03-01 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
get yourself some priority mail labels, make some stickers, and 'decorate' the offending signs?

[identity profile] lonelyholiday.livejournal.com 2009-03-01 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Another reason to hate them - I once slipped on one of these signs and fell hard in the street. They're really slippery when on the ground, covered by a layer of slush.

I wasn't seriously injured, just completely bruised up. But it still makes me hold a grudge, and I guess I should also point out that if anyone does try to pull them down, be sure to dispose of them somewhere and not just leave them lying around.

Not exactly the same thing, but related

[identity profile] m00n.livejournal.com 2009-03-01 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Is there anything that can be done about this monstrosity?

Image (http://gallery.unlitworld.com/v/sharing/DSC_1952.jpg.html?g2_imageViewsIndex=2)

Particularly with regards to the billboard on the left, which has been like that for several days now...

As a general rule I really hate billboards. Unlike almost any other form of advertising, billboards do not benefit me in any way (i.e. they do not pay for a service that I use), but I still have to look at them. If they were to be banned from the area completely I would not miss them--they give NOTHING back to the community.

Re: Not exactly the same thing, but related

[identity profile] frederic.livejournal.com 2009-03-01 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
They might allow a place that sells darts and fishing tackle to stay open due to the extra income (or for the landlord not to raise their rent so they close). Unless of course a store like that (and others) gives nothing back to the community.

Otherwise, yes, I'd rather not have them in my town.

Re: Not exactly the same thing, but related

[identity profile] m00n.livejournal.com 2009-03-02 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
I suppose by that same token you could justify bringing in brothels and drug dealing since it would require minimal effort and would likely help cover the rent without using too much space. It's just that as a society we've collectively decided that we'd be better off without these things in our midst. I feel like the billboards are even worse in a sense because I actually have to look at them every day and they pollute the skies with light, too.

Re: Not exactly the same thing, but related

[identity profile] frederic.livejournal.com 2009-03-02 05:22 am (UTC)(link)
I am disappointed that you stopped short of invoking the Nazis.

Re: Not exactly the same thing, but related

[identity profile] m00n.livejournal.com 2009-03-02 01:12 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not smart to pull out all of the stops on the first try. ;-)

[identity profile] xuth.livejournal.com 2009-03-02 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
A big part of the problem trying to deal with this is that many of the entities that really profit on these signs insulate themselves from any legal ramifications of the posting of the sign spam yet incentivise(?) lots of people to post them by the thousand.
The only thing I've heard of that might deter people people from posting these signs in your area is to leave enough of them around in a defaced state. The reason why this might work is that typically the people physically posting the signs are charged (a very small cost) for each sign but are paid for every referal from their signs based on the phone number on any given sign. If they see that signs like this in an area consistently have the phone numbers removed (thus there would be no profit for the sign installer even if someone wanted the services and found it by other means) they might be encouraged to post them elsewhere rather than right here. Just removing them all suggests that this is a ripe area to infest.

causs.org

[identity profile] ravingwanderer.livejournal.com 2009-03-04 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
There's actually an anti-street-sign-spam organization CAUSS (http://www.causs.org/), whose web site describes tactics that can be used to fight these sorts of signs. (Any resemblance of its name to that of another spam-fighting organization (http://www.cauce.org/) was probably intentional.) They include descriptions of relatively inexpensive and easy-to-make homemade tools for removing hard-to-reach signs, as well as tactics for deterring repeat offenders.