http://nvidia99999.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] nvidia99999.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] davis_square2008-12-07 10:42 pm
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Property values in Davis Sq (and Somerville)

I just saw in the Somerville News an estimate saying that property values in Somerville declined 2% this year:
http://www.thesomervillenews.com/main.asp?SectionID=2&SubSectionID=2&ArticleID=218. Somebody mentioned that Zillow actually reports a loss of about 8%. This is confusing. The Editor of the Somerville News pointed out that Zillow does not have accurate estimates. In my experience, Zillow is pretty on the mark when it comes to sale prices, they seem to be doing lots of good stats on their datasets. Any idea on how to gather additional information on this? I doubt one can trust the Somerville News, given that it was created by the owners of ERA, one of the Somerville Real Estate agencies (clearly, they would not want to advertise that property values are going down around here).

One funny tidbit. Have you received a pack of coupon last week? I received one, and one of the coupons was an ad for ERA, the Norton Group. It says: "Voted #1 Real Estate Company 2000 to 2007 By the readers of the Somerville News"! Now, when many of the readers are ERA employees or relatives of ERA employees, that is a bit of a conflict of interest, isn't it? :)

[identity profile] jamesnorton.livejournal.com 2008-12-08 01:05 pm (UTC)(link)
actually, no, if what i typed read that i was trying to imply that assessments were reliable with respect to the market, then that isn't correct. when determining taxes, assessments are the benchmark - that's all. assessments with respect to real world valuation (the market) are notoriously flawed for a number of reasons which would take hours to explain.

when it comes to the marketplace in the boston (all of new england actually) zillow is notoriously flawed...it's hard to pinpoint why, esp given the fact that it is true, zillow has been very much on target in a city like san francisco.

i took offense to the person making the snide comments - nothing that could have been considered a "disagreement" as far as opinions or statements of fact...

Re: Zillow again.

[identity profile] somertricky.livejournal.com 2008-12-08 04:57 pm (UTC)(link)
You want underestimation? Take a look at the values realtor.com coughs up.

zillow manillow

[identity profile] jamesnorton.livejournal.com 2008-12-08 06:11 pm (UTC)(link)
actally tricky - good example of biased data there...

i'm a realtor, and that entire site is an embarrassing shill-fest

yuck

Re: zillow manillow

[identity profile] somertricky.livejournal.com 2008-12-08 07:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I have no idea what makes the low values on that website biased, but they've got Phillys on the Davis/Powderhouse side of the Brown School valued in the mid-fives, which is insane.

Zillow has what I'm guessing is more accurate numbers in these cases, which is mid-six tending towards seven. That alone is close to 20% between the two sites.