[identity profile] m00n.livejournal.com 2010-06-11 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Police overtime is EXPENSIVE and should consequently be avoided whenever possible!

That said, I am only in favor of mandating one over the other if one is demonstrably cheaper than the other. I am always in favor of GOOD ARITHMETIC IN GOVERNMENT.

[identity profile] clevernonsense.livejournal.com 2010-06-11 05:13 pm (UTC)(link)
it's often semi-retired police officers doing these duties (at least in the district my ex's dad, but I would be in favor of implementing laws that gave them or other part timers priority. I know often they have other structures in place.

I also think police officers deserve more pay than their base salary in general, and I'm pretty sure the union negotiations include compensation from overtime as part of its overall formula.

Also, wasn't there a globe article that showed using flaggers was costing the state more money?

[identity profile] pierceheart.livejournal.com 2010-06-11 05:34 pm (UTC)(link)
They found it's costing more to use flaggers in Boston:
http://www.wickedlocal.com/allston/town_info/government/x1043119523/Boston-wants-to-use-cops-not-flaggers-on-construction-details

[identity profile] pierceheart.livejournal.com 2010-06-11 06:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Prevailing wage law, that why it costs so much.

Crossing guards aren't considered laborers, flaggers are.
Edited 2010-06-11 18:22 (UTC)

[identity profile] ukelele.livejournal.com 2010-06-11 06:22 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a big difference between stopping traffic, and directing it. My local school crossing guard tries to direct it. I wish he didn't.

[identity profile] clevernonsense.livejournal.com 2010-06-11 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)
i believe accidents around construction sites are one of the leading causes of death among traffic incidents, and MA has one of the lowest such rates in the country. There was a big argument that using police is one of the reasons this is the case. I am only guessing that in order to prevent the death rates from rising, the state is requiring significant qualifications to do the job (just guessing though).

[identity profile] pierceheart.livejournal.com 2010-06-11 05:26 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not overtime, and when someone other than the city government is doing the work (NSTAR, COMCAST, etc) it is paid for BY the company, with a 10% admin fee paid into the city coffers.