[identity profile] bobobb.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] davis_square
I was walking in the Davis Square area and saw a man from a industrial cleaning company dumping his cleaning waste down the street sewer from his van -- it was pretty stinky.  I'm assuming this is illegal because when he saw me he packed up his truck and took off in a hurry.   When I looked on the city's web page I couldn't find anything about illegal dumping, so maybe I'm wrong.  I assumed that the street sewers go into the mystic river -- is this true?  Please fill me in.  I have his licence plate number so I'll report it if in fact it is illegal dumping -- but again who do you report this to?
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Date: 2008-05-14 04:43 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
Please do report it, that's very illegal.

Date: 2008-05-14 04:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fanw.livejournal.com
I don't know, but I'd call 311 and find out who to report this to. Sounds pretty sketchy to me!

Date: 2008-05-14 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] srakkt.livejournal.com
Call 311 and report it? Did you get the name of the company and maybe the number of the truck?

If it's not illegal then it's hardly an issue, and the folks at 311 will know. if it is illegal, then you're getting it handled.

Date: 2008-05-14 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beezy515.livejournal.com
Yes, please report this.

Date: 2008-05-14 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ruthling.livejournal.com
Thank you for reporting this. Yes, storm sewers discharge, usually completely untreated, into a local waterbody. The Mystic has enough problems and doesn't need random guys throwing anything from soap to industrial waste down into it.

Date: 2008-05-14 04:57 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
And yes, anything dumped in a Somerville storm sewer is eventually going to end up in the Mystic River, or in Alewife Brook, which drains into the Mystic. It's bad enough when the stuff being dumped is just dogshit, but even worse if it's some industrial chemical.

Date: 2008-05-14 04:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jspazzer.livejournal.com

Appropriately, their slogan appears to be "Like it never even happened"
http://www.servpro.com/

Date: 2008-05-14 05:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spaz-i-mota.livejournal.com
ServPro is a huge company. I'm not sure why that makes it more disturbing to me, but it does.

Date: 2008-05-14 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] islandofzilan.livejournal.com
how do you know what was being dumped was an industrial solvent?

There are alot of natural solvents that can smell pretty bad too...

Date: 2008-05-14 05:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firepail.livejournal.com
Even more disturbing, if this person was doing this blatantly in broad daylight--they have probably done it before.

Date: 2008-05-14 05:33 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
Then they probably shouldn't be dumped into the storm sewer either.

Date: 2008-05-14 05:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] srakkt.livejournal.com
At no point did the OP assert that what was being dumped was an industrial solvent, and regardless of this fact, dumping into stormdrains is illegal, even if it's sugar and spice and everything nice.

Date: 2008-05-14 05:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fanw.livejournal.com
Wow! How disgustingly appropriate!

Date: 2008-05-14 06:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cityofbeige.livejournal.com
Huh... with a slogan like that, it makes you wonder if that was part of a corpse dissolved in lye or sulfuric acid.

Date: 2008-05-14 06:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mark0429.livejournal.com
ServPro is a huge company, but regional offices such as the one doing the illegal dumping are locally owned private franchises. And, knowing someone who owns their own franchise out of state, I am relatively certain that if this were to get reported up the ladder to corporate, they would handle it.

That's not to say that the local authorities should not be involved--they absolutely should--but I think that if the corporate offices became aware of this problem, they would also be equipped to deal with the offending franchisee/employee.

Date: 2008-05-14 06:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] islandofzilan.livejournal.com
no they didn't, the person said , "his cleaning waste," my question is, how did they know that that is what was being dumped?

I understand you shouldn't dump anything into storm drains. but really storm water isn't neccessarily clean either.

Date: 2008-05-14 06:10 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-05-14 06:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cityofbeige.livejournal.com
Just about every storm drain I've seen in Somerville has a plaque over it saying that it drains directly to the Charles or Mystic River.

Date: 2008-05-14 06:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] m00n.livejournal.com
Because it means this is probably company policy all over the place, rather than just an isolated incident.

Date: 2008-05-14 06:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spaz-i-mota.livejournal.com
probably a coincidence..but the storm drains around day/orchard are giving off an exceptional STINK lately.

Date: 2008-05-14 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] srakkt.livejournal.com
So are you being contrary out of some desire to engage in useless rhetoric, or are you simply of the opinion that other human beings are incapable of making a determination using common sense and the evidence at hand?

You're engaged semantic handwaving, you understand, which has absolutely nothing to do with anything terribly useful to the issue.

Marked van. Uniformed employee. Dumping *something* (anything). Storm drain.

"one shouldn't" is not the same thing as "it is illegal to" the two classes are not equivalent.

Date: 2008-05-14 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] srakkt.livejournal.com
That was me. I'm sorry... I couldn't hold it any longer.

Date: 2008-05-14 07:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spaz-i-mota.livejournal.com
yikes..is that what happens when one eats chinese food from one of the questionable places around here? damn!
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