A message from Somerville Climate Action

[closetalker11.livejournal.com]

Hi kids:

I got this message from a member of the Somerville Climate Action group. As it has to do with trash/recycling regulations, I thought y'all might like to know.

- Ananas

I just had a meeting with Vithal Despande from the DPW. With the economic downturn, the recycling industry is taking a hit like everyone else. The demand for recyclable materials at home and abroad has gone down significantly and recycle collection businesses are sitting on piles of material waiting for someone to buy.

Because of this, Casella Waste Systems is going to be enforcing the rules as to what can be accepted from our city pick-ups.

The biggest unacceptable thing that people put in is plastic bags. Plastic bags can not be used to contain recyclables, they can't be left on the outside of paper bags and they can't be put in on their own. Another thing is styrofoam. Even if it has a number on it- no styrofoam. Also, no pizza boxes. Paper and cardboard must be separate from co-mingled by tying up or placing in a paper bag.

Russell, the company that hauls the pick up will begin issuing rejections for people who don't follow the rules.

Comments

[thetathx1138.livejournal.com]

I could have had more fun with this entry if you'd abbreviated it SCA.

Either way, I'll pass the word on to my roommates, although we tend to hang onto plastic bags and throw out pizza boxes.

[ron_newman]

I saw a lot of orange tickets on blue bins this morning on Orchard Street.

Is there some reason that newspapers need to be piled up outside the blue bins instead of commingled with other recyclables inside the bins? It seems wasteful for people to have to get brown paper bags from the grocery store (that we wouldn't otherwise need) just to hold recyclable newspapers.

[mjperson.livejournal.com]

"Also, no pizza boxes."

Does that mean that pizza boxes are forbidden, or that they must be broken down and separated out with the other cardboard?

[closetalker11.livejournal.com]

I have no idea. I can pass the question along, though.

[firstfrost.livejournal.com]

You can also tie them up with twine. (Then you have to get twine you don't otherwise need, but it seems less wasteful to me...)

[closetalker11.livejournal.com]

I think it means they're forbidden (EVIL FORBIDDEN PIZZA BOX!), and I'm guessing it's b/c of food remnants, but I don't actually know. I can pass the question along.

[chenoameg.livejournal.com]

Pizza boxes are forbidden because they contain too much grease and therefore attract rodents.

(If you cut them up into little pieces you can add them to my compost, though!)

[chenoameg.livejournal.com]

From watching the pickups I believe that they still sort the recyclables at the truck level, so paper and containers need to be easily separated.

Which is a bummer, because otherwise I definitely would buy the large wheeled recycling container for our three family household.

[ron_newman]

Please do. I don't like having to waste additional paper in order to recycle paper.

[sonofabish.livejournal.com]

I always wondered about the pizza box thing too. Enquiring minds want to know.

And I will have to try (again) to educate my roommates, who are both well-schooled people but unable to grasp that PAPER AND CARDBOARD MUST BE PLACED IN A SEPARATE BAG. They keep just putting it in the bin.

[ron_newman]

My apartment building has the big rolling gray bins, and as far as I know, we're supposed to put paper (newspaper, magazines, office paper, cardboard) in some of those bins. Am I wrong?

[ron_newman]

I notice that the Davis Square CVS recently installed a recycling bin for plastic bags, right inside the entrance door.

[unferth.livejournal.com]

Anyone know of an alternate recycling option for plastic bags, then? I've never looked too closely at the bins behind Downtown Wine and Spirits or outside the Star Market at Porter; do they take plastic bags?

[ron_newman]

See my reply immediately above -- CVS in Davis Square. Maybe other CVS's as well.

Yes, Shaw's in Porter Square has long had bins for recycling plastic bags.

just making trouble -- ignore this question

[jovianconsensus.livejournal.com]

Another thing is styrofoam. Even if it has a number on it- no styrofoam.

Are non-STYROFOAM™ brand extruded/expanded polystyrene foam packaging materials still okay?

[sonofabish.livejournal.com]

I dunno, Ron. We have the standard blue bins and my handy-dandy City of Somerville recycling guide (which I posted on the wall by the bin, to no effect) says newpaper/cardboard go separate. But the school next door also has those grey bins like yours and I think you can co-mingle in those. Good question for 311.

[sonofabish.livejournal.com]

Market Basket has plastic bag recycling barrels next where they have the bottle deposit machines.

[firstfrost.livejournal.com]

I used to carefully sort between boxes which had any grease and boxes which didn't, and put the latter in with the newspapers. I bet I'm not supposed to do that any more.

[yehoshua.livejournal.com]

Also the grease adulterates whatever they try to make with the pulp, making it worthless.

[plumtreeblossom.livejournal.com]

I wish pizza boxes could be recycled. I throw them in the regular garbage, but it doesn't feel good to do that.

[lbmango.livejournal.com]

Also, what about cardboard and paper inside cardboard boxes? that's how I tend to get rid of old boxes...

Re: just making trouble -- ignore this question

[closetalker11.livejournal.com]

No, they're illegal. Law enforcement officers are on their way to your house right now. RUN, SON!

[clevernonsense.livejournal.com]

you can use two bins I believe

[ron_newman]

I don't know how you'd get a pizza box without grease, unless it never held a pizza to begin with.

[firstfrost.livejournal.com]

Some places put something like waxed paper between the pizza and the box, which seems to block all but the most greasy of pizzas.

[chenoameg.livejournal.com]

You probably have some of the big bins for paper and some for containers...

[chenoameg.livejournal.com]

Ok, to be completely honest, I rip my pizza box into two pieces -- the top and other bits that are completely grease free, and the greasy part.

I then cut or rip each part into small pieces and put the greasy bits into my compost (because I have not had problems with varmits in my bin) and put the absolutely not greasy bits hidden into my paper bags of recycling.

This is one of those "do as I say, not as I do" moments.

[chenoameg.livejournal.com]

All grocery stores in the commonwealth of MA are required to have containers to accept plastic grocery bags for recycling, and all of the ones I have been to in Somerville/Cambridge do.

[i-leonardo.livejournal.com]

i solved this problem by purchasing (~$6) a small office-trash-size blue recycle bin, even has the triangle logo on the side.

[grapefruiteater.livejournal.com]

My brother's girlfriend's father (figure that one out) used to do something like that, and he got into a war of sorts with the recycling people in the town where he lives in Illinois. The town kept sending him letters being like, "Stop recycling pizza boxes!" and then "Stop recycling pizza boxes with the greasy parts cut out!" At that point he gave up and started throwing them out.

[moireach.livejournal.com]

Yeah, that drives me NUTS. I try really hard not to get grocery bags and end up in a bind. It's not really in the mindset of reducing consumption.

OFF TOPIC

[androidqueen.livejournal.com]

Je suis un anana.

Mais, les ananas ne parlent pas!

[fredrickegerman.livejournal.com]

Twine doesn't work nearly as well for junk mail as it does for newspapers.

Re: OFF TOPIC

[closetalker11.livejournal.com]

Telefrancais touched so many lives.

Bonjour, allo, salut!

Re: OFF TOPIC

[wallacestreet.livejournal.com]

Les ananas ne dansent pas!!

(you win six internets for the best picture thingie of all)

[m00n.livejournal.com]

If polystyrene foam is marked with a recycling logo, why can we not recycle it? As an IT professional who often finds himself purchasing computer equipment which tends to come with large amounts of the stuff, I find it very frustrating when, in spite of the manufacturer's attempts to label the stuff FOR recycling, I actually have no way to recycle it.

That said, I guess I have two questions:

1) Why on earth can't I recycle it if it's marked, and

2) If indeed I can't put it in the blue bins, what should I do with it? Given the environmental impact I know it has, I absolutely refuse to throw it in a landfill if at all possible.

[roosto.livejournal.com]

It's not just pizza boxes... It's any paper or cardboard that has food on it. So those chinese take out boxes and the bag you got from kick ass cupcakes which has a see through hole where the frosting rubbed up against it are both out too.

I'm not sure how feasible it would be, but I know that Whole Foods in Fresh Pond has composting cans in its cafe section. Maybe if one could not feel too embarrassed by it one could take such items there to compost them...

Surely it would be lovely if Somerville started a curbside organics/compostable pick up program like my native Berkeley (http://www.ci.berkeley.ca.us/ContentDisplay.aspx?id=5606#FOOD_SCRAPS).

[boblothrope.livejournal.com]

It's not that hard to acquire paper grocery bags in a non-wasteful way. For example, you can often find them with your neighbors' paper recycling.

[boblothrope.livejournal.com]

The Cambridge Recycling Center takes food scraps for compost, and they never ask for proof of residence.

I wouldn't be too happy about the environmental impact of yet another type of truck that had to stop at every house in the city. Maybe they could start accepting food scraps with yard waste (except in winter).

[turil.livejournal.com]

He should have decorated the clean cardbord parts so that they couldn't tell they were pizza boxes!

[turil.livejournal.com]

San Francisco started curbside compost pick-up last year, I believe...

[turil.livejournal.com]

And the trucks could be powered by biomass energy!

[avjudge]

A while ago I read an article about Somerville recycling and in it the interviewee stated that they could never get the smell out of pizza boxes - and hence anything made with them. FWIW

[roosto.livejournal.com]

The other thing is that when you don't have to p/u the food scraps with the trash there will be less trash to pick up; i.e. fewer garbage trucks. This is one of the keys that makes curbside recycling work. The more that gets recycled the less you have to pay for trash collection

[lentower.livejournal.com]

you can't recycle styrofoam, because it has no value to the recycle industry - they can't make anything useful from it economically

most of the regulations are based on what makes sense for the recycle industry - what helps them make a small profit and stay in business

[djdreilinger.livejournal.com]

It's 2009. Shouldn't someone have built a better pizza box by now? One that can be easily broken down to fit into a standard kitchen garbage bin without tearing holes in the bag?

recycling styrofoam/expanded polystyrene (EPS)

[bryttan.livejournal.com]

The Alliance of Foam Packaging Recyclers (AFPR) lists some local (Massachusetts) drop-off points for orgs that recycle Styrofoam (aka: expanded polystyrene, aka: EPS)

From their 31 Oct 2008 listing (online at http://www.epspackaging.org/pdf/AFPR%20Website%20Recycling%20Locations%2010-31-08.pdf):

FP International, Auburn 508-832-5369
Polyfoam Corporation, Northbridge 508-234-6323
Foam Concepts, Uxbridge 508-278-7255
Insulation Technology, Bridgewater 508-697-6926
Conigliaro Industries, Framingham 508-872-9668

Additionally, the AFPR has a mail-in program for recycling Styrofoam (expanded polystyrene) packaging.
The mail-in locations are divided by region and are shown online at http://www.epspackaging.org/pdf/Mail%20Back%20Locations.pdf

I think the closest mail-in EPS recycling center is probably the one in CT, but there are places all over the country to mail the stuff to, so if you don't drive (or don't want to waste the ecologic footprint of one car trip to a more local vendor) you can package up your Styrofoam & have a shipper take it for recycling for you.

Connecticut
Tegrant Corporation
29 Park Road
Putnam, CT 06260
860-928-7795

More info on the AFPR is online at http://www.epspackaging.org/info.html


& PS-If you try any of the above points of contact for recycling styrofoam, please don't hesitate to let me/us know how it turns out!!!! Thanks. :)