From some of the people who spoke at the meeting, and from some printed material I got there. (I was there for only 45 minutes, though). The whole process strikes me as chaotic, however.
the traffic and parking commission listened politely to 2 hours of testimony from concerned citizens, the majority of whom (certainly the most vocal) seemed to be supporting the petitions, then voted to decline the petitions because they felt the concerns expressed were being adequately addressed by the parking task force. alderman trane was the most enthusiastically permit-only proponent, dan maher was the most cogent opponent. a T@F representative, a vernon-st studios member, and a mudflats rep all talked about their specific concerns; at the close of public comments there seemed to be a consensus among the commission and the task force that a representative of "the arts community" should be invited to join the task force.
what happens next ? presumably a lot of lobbying of the task force members. in the absence of an organized political counter-weight, though (the mayor's unopposed in the upcoming election, i believe), momentum is with the establishment.
Dan Maher owns a stained glass store in Magoun Square, and was very concerned about the amount of parking in Magoun that would disappear. I would also add to the above that Alderman Pero also spoke strongly in favor of permit parking only.
The mayor is unopposed, all of the ward aldermen are unopposed except for Rebekah Gewirtz (whom I want to keep), but there are five people running for the four aldermen-at-large seats. If you think we need a change, you may want to vote for Luis Morales, the only non-incumbent, this November. I have no idea what his position is on parking, but he is a local small-business owner as well as a local pastor.
I don't understand what the issue is with the current permit-only process. I live on a street that is not permit-only, and if residents want that changed, there's a policy in place to do so. (51% of residents of that street need to agree to it). Now, we have no choice?
this point was made by, i think, two speakers and received strong applause during one of them. some permit-only proponents seem to be expressing concern that there's a "fairness" issue with people failing to register cars in somerville and pay the associated local excise tax (out-of-state plates were mentioned a few times). in the absence of survey data, it's hard to quantify how much revenue, in lost excise tax, the city is being deprived of. my bias is strongly in favor of the pre-change petition system; i may not be making the best representation of the pro-change viewpoint.
huh...in re-reading that post i'm impressed by my own lack of coherence. to clarify: i prefer the system where 51% of the street's residents can petition to go permit-only, and i supported the petition to repeal the changes made by the parking board.
There seems to be general confusion about (among other things) the primary purpose of the regulations.
If the goal is to protect residents against the impending Green Line, the current system for allowing residents to make their street permit-only seems like it would be an effective way for residents to decide for themselves if permitting is necessary.
However, after last night's meeting, I think the excise tax issue is more significant than I had previously thought. The brochure from the city includes a letter from the Mayor which gives as the reason for the change that, "...we can no longer afford to allow residents to park their cars here but register them somewhere else."
Another thing I found strange was the argument that came up a few times that "2/3 of Somerville has had permit parking for years and it's not a problem. Therefore having 100% permit parking will also not be a problem." Isn't that exactly why the last 1/3 of non-permit parking is so valuable?
the drive to go permit-only is mainly financial: the city anticipates collecting an additional $1.75 million in tickets and fees. changes aren't being proposed to address parking problems.
I’ve lived in the first area in the city to go permit only for almost my entire life and while it does help with some issues it doesn’t help at all with others. The reason this area went permit only was directly related to Tufts students filling every spot on the street with their car all day and night and not moving them for days on end. Even the students that lived on campus had cars parked on the streets. The permits solved that problem but didn’t solve the problem of out of state residents from not reregistering their cars here. Just drive down any side street abutting Tufts and you’ll see what I mean. Student houses are easy to spot, they’ll all have 6-10 vehicles parked in the driveways and most if not all will be registered out of state. Permit parking just drove them off the streets and into the houses but it did not make anyone register their car here.
"Another thing I found strange was the argument that came up a few times that "2/3 of Somerville has had permit parking for years and it's not a problem. Therefore having 100% permit parking will also not be a problem." Isn't that exactly why the last 1/3 of non-permit parking is so valuable?"
yes, exactly!
The thing about the excise tax is this: I completely support forcing residents who own cars to register them here and pay the excise tax. Frankly I don't think anyone is complaining about this. I have a huge problem with the way they are going about this, though and I wish they could find some other way to do it than the permit-only-even-if-residents-don't-want-it rule. The problem, as I see it is that they are assuming that everyone who parks 1. lives here AND 2. owns a car
The places the regulation change makes problems are when either (or both) of the above are not true. It makes parking problems for people who are not residents. And it makes parking problems for residents who do not own cars (but sometimes borrow one, for example).
“IT IS UNLAWFUL FOR A NONRESIDENT STUDENT TO FAIL TO FILE A NONRESIDENT DRIVER STATEMENT WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT LOCATED IN THE SAME CITY OR TOWN AS THE SCHOOL OR COLLEGE ATTENDED, IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 3 OF CHAPTER 90 OF THE MASSACHUSETTS GENERAL LAWS. FAILURE TO FILE SUCH STATEMENT IS PUNISHABLE BY A FINE NOT TO EXCEED $200.” Ask SPD how many Non resident driver staements they get each year.
Have they received register data for any Tufts (or other universities) students who have a Somerville address, pursuant to:
Any such school or college which fails to compile and maintain a register, to issue a decal as required by this paragraph or to forward register data to the assessor’s office of a municipality in which a nonresident student resides shall be punished by a fine of not more than one hundred dollars for each such offense.
In which case, Tufts students need to register nonresident driver notices with Medford PD, and Tufts needs to submit their registers to every municipality in which their students reside.
Of course, I'm sure there's some portion of education privacy law which conflicts with that requirement ...
If I understand correctly, residents who don't own cars can still get parking passes, which they could use in their Zipcars or otherwise borrowed cars on a temporary basis. I could be wrong about that though.
And overall I agree with your points. I think it's a huge problem that Somerville's housing costs are going up to the point where a lot of people can no longer afford to live here -- yet we still want those people to come back to Somerville to work, as well as to patronize our businesses; but we don't want to let them park here. What are they supposed to do?
this point was made by, i think, two speakers and received strong applause during one of them
That would be me. I pointed out that we already have the process in place to petition to change to a permit only street, so there's no reason to force it on streets that don't want it.
I was dismayed that they declined all aspects of the petition. My understanding of their reasoning is that they believed that the Parking Commission could change the rules so nothing was set in stone, and that with the Task Force in place it's likely that some aspects will be re-examined. But I'm not looking forward to my street becoming permit-only. I'm certainly considering going door-to-door to try to petition to remain non-permit.
If I understand correctly, residents who don't own cars can still get parking passes, which they could use in their Zipcars or otherwise borrowed cars on a temporary basis. I could be wrong about that though.
Yes. The problem with that is that the text on the visitor's pass says that it can't be used by a car "controlled by a resident." According to Jim Kotsubas, that doesn't mean that you can't use it in your rental car; it means you can't use it in your company car or van that is registered in another city.
Excise tax is based on the value of your vehicle, with the floor being around the $30 you paid, I believe. Those with newer vehicles pay significantly more. It's quite possible we're talking about a significant sum of money.
An excise at the rate of $25 per one thousand dollars of valuation (effective 1/1/81) is levied on each motor vehicle. Information on the value of a motor vehicle is accessed electronically through a data bank complete with valuation figures. Different sources provide the valuation figures depending upon whether the motor vehicle is an automobile, a truck, a motorcycle, or a trailer. For example, automobile valuations are derived from figures published in the National Automobile Dealers Association Official Used Car Guide (NADA), to which the Registry has electronic access. Most public libraries have copies of NADA and other motor vehicle official guides.
Figures are the manufacturers’ list prices for vehicles in their year of manufacture. Present market value, price paid, or condition are not considered for excise tax purposes. The excise tax law (M.G.L. c.60A, s.1) establishes its own formula for valuation for state tax purposes whereby only the manufacturer’s list price and the age of the motor vehicle are considered. The formula is as follows:
In the year preceding the model year (brand new car released before model year)
50%
In the model year
90%
In the second year
60%
In the third year
40%
In the fourth year
25%
In the fifth and succeeding years
10%
Every motor vehicle owner must pay an excise tax based on valuation of at least ten percent of the manufacturer’s list price; thus, owners of vehicles older than five years should have a fixed excise tax bill for succeeding years of ownership. Even though an owner may have applied for an abatement that may reduce an excise tax bill, no excise shall be less than $5.
When they make statements like "2/3 of the city has been permit parking for years and it's not a problem".....perhaps they should consider speaking with the residents of those streets. I can tell you that it is, indeed, a problem. My street has permit parking because one resident (who didn't even understand how permit parking would work, and has now left the city!) managed to get enough residents to sign her petition. It is a nightmare. As to excise taxes, which are supposed to help pay for things like upkeep of the roads (why you pay more for a newer car to maintain the roads is way beyond me), is only a small piece of the puzzle. The city knows it will make huge amounts of money on permits, passes, and most importantly TICKETS. So, the city will institute permit-only parking, non-residents will be driven away from the city and its' businesses, and the residents will be left to deal with the mess and the cost. I would suggest that most of the money the city will make from tickets will be paid by residents. How does this make sense? But be aware, that this is coming, and no petition or public hearing is going to change it.
Because you pay that right away, and then pay for the model year early in the calendar year. We bought a car in August, paid excise in Nov. and then paid again in Feb.
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Date: 2009-08-14 02:25 pm (UTC)It sounded to me like the city plans to change many of the things people had complained about, but I don't understand what the process is from here.
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Date: 2009-08-14 02:27 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-08-14 02:43 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-08-14 02:50 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-08-14 02:56 pm (UTC)what happens next ? presumably a lot of lobbying of the task force members. in the absence of an organized political counter-weight, though (the mayor's unopposed in the upcoming election, i believe), momentum is with the establishment.
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Date: 2009-08-14 03:04 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2009-08-14 03:22 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-08-14 03:31 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-08-14 03:31 pm (UTC)Quelle surprise!
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Date: 2009-08-14 03:47 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-08-14 03:50 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-08-14 03:55 pm (UTC)The response to that is NOT to force everyone to get permits.
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Date: 2009-08-14 04:28 pm (UTC)If the goal is to protect residents against the impending Green Line, the current system for allowing residents to make their street permit-only seems like it would be an effective way for residents to decide for themselves if permitting is necessary.
However, after last night's meeting, I think the excise tax issue is more significant than I had previously thought. The brochure from the city includes a letter from the Mayor which gives as the reason for the change that, "...we can no longer afford to allow residents to park their cars here but register them somewhere else."
Another thing I found strange was the argument that came up a few times that "2/3 of Somerville has had permit parking for years and it's not a problem. Therefore having 100% permit parking will also not be a problem." Isn't that exactly why the last 1/3 of non-permit parking is so valuable?
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Date: 2009-08-14 04:29 pm (UTC)Edit: this was in 1984-1999. Maybe the tax has gone up since then?
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Date: 2009-08-14 04:50 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-08-14 04:52 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2009-08-14 04:58 pm (UTC)Correct.
Date: 2009-08-14 05:09 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-08-14 05:13 pm (UTC)yes, exactly!
The thing about the excise tax is this: I completely support forcing residents who own cars to register them here and pay the excise tax. Frankly I don't think anyone is complaining about this. I have a huge problem with the way they are going about this, though and I wish they could find some other way to do it than the permit-only-even-if-residents-don't-want-it rule.
The problem, as I see it is that they are assuming that everyone who parks
1. lives here
AND
2. owns a car
The places the regulation change makes problems are when either (or both) of the above are not true.
It makes parking problems for people who are not residents.
And it makes parking problems for residents who do not own cars (but sometimes borrow one, for example).
Re: Correct.
Date: 2009-08-14 05:23 pm (UTC)Re: Correct.
Date: 2009-08-14 05:24 pm (UTC)Re: Correct.
Date: 2009-08-14 05:30 pm (UTC)Why should I ask them?
Date: 2009-08-14 05:34 pm (UTC)Ask Medford PD.
Again, permit only cannot force students to register their cars in MA, it can only get them off the permit streets.
ask this one of somerville
Date: 2009-08-14 05:36 pm (UTC)Any such school or college which fails to compile and maintain a register, to issue a decal as required by this paragraph or to forward register data to the assessor’s office of a municipality in which a nonresident student resides shall be punished by a fine of not more than one hundred dollars for each such offense.
Re: Why should I ask them?
Date: 2009-08-14 05:40 pm (UTC)Re: Why should I ask them?
Date: 2009-08-14 05:45 pm (UTC)Re: Why should I ask them?
Date: 2009-08-14 05:48 pm (UTC)(781) 391-5300
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Re: Why should I ask them?
Date: 2009-08-14 06:00 pm (UTC)Of course, I'm sure there's some portion of education privacy law which conflicts with that requirement ...
Re: Why should I ask them?
Date: 2009-08-14 06:05 pm (UTC)I honestly don't know where the corporation is listed.
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Date: 2009-08-14 06:53 pm (UTC)And overall I agree with your points. I think it's a huge problem that Somerville's housing costs are going up to the point where a lot of people can no longer afford to live here -- yet we still want those people to come back to Somerville to work, as well as to patronize our businesses; but we don't want to let them park here. What are they supposed to do?
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Date: 2009-08-14 07:37 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-08-14 07:39 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-08-14 07:43 pm (UTC)That would be me. I pointed out that we already have the process in place to petition to change to a permit only street, so there's no reason to force it on streets that don't want it.
I was dismayed that they declined all aspects of the petition. My understanding of their reasoning is that they believed that the Parking Commission could change the rules so nothing was set in stone, and that with the Task Force in place it's likely that some aspects will be re-examined. But I'm not looking forward to my street becoming permit-only. I'm certainly considering going door-to-door to try to petition to remain non-permit.
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Date: 2009-08-14 08:00 pm (UTC)Yes. The problem with that is that the text on the visitor's pass says that it can't be used by a car "controlled by a resident." According to Jim Kotsubas, that doesn't mean that you can't use it in your rental car; it means you can't use it in your company car or van that is registered in another city.
There are also temporary passes for sale.
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Date: 2009-08-14 08:03 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-08-14 08:08 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-08-14 08:41 pm (UTC)Figures are the manufacturers’ list prices for vehicles in their year of manufacture. Present market value, price paid, or condition are not considered for excise tax purposes. The excise tax law (M.G.L. c.60A, s.1) establishes its own formula for valuation for state tax purposes whereby only the manufacturer’s list price and the age of the motor vehicle are considered. The formula is as follows:
In the year preceding the model year
(brand new car released before model year)
50%
In the model year
90%
In the second year
60%
In the third year
40%
In the fourth year
25%
In the fifth and succeeding years
10%
Every motor vehicle owner must pay an excise tax based on valuation of at least ten percent of the manufacturer’s list price; thus, owners of vehicles older than five years should have a fixed excise tax bill for succeeding years of ownership. Even though an owner may have applied for an abatement that may reduce an excise tax bill, no excise shall be less than $5.
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Date: 2009-08-14 09:02 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-08-14 10:14 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-08-15 12:30 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-08-16 12:36 pm (UTC)As to excise taxes, which are supposed to help pay for things like upkeep of the roads (why you pay more for a newer car to maintain the roads is way beyond me), is only a small piece of the puzzle. The city knows it will make huge amounts of money on permits, passes, and most importantly TICKETS. So, the city will institute permit-only parking, non-residents will be driven away from the city and its' businesses, and the residents will be left to deal with the mess and the cost. I would suggest that most of the money the city will make from tickets will be paid by residents. How does this make sense?
But be aware, that this is coming, and no petition or public hearing is going to change it.
permit parking question
Date: 2009-08-17 02:15 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-08-17 02:31 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-08-17 08:41 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-08-17 08:42 pm (UTC)Re: permit parking question
Date: 2009-08-22 11:12 pm (UTC)Re: permit parking question
Date: 2009-08-24 06:47 pm (UTC)