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From February 17 meeting minutes sent to the Porter Square Neighbors mailing list:

Mark Ostow (owner of Zing Pizza and Cafe Zing in Porter Square Books) showed up to introduce himself and to express concern over possible competition from Panera Bread, which is coming to the space previously occupied by Qdoba (and McDonald's before that) in the shopping center. Without taking a position on business competition, we thanked Mark for Zing's high quality and local ownership, and wished him continued success.
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Date: 2011-03-02 09:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] benndragon.livejournal.com
Oh, that explains why there was an anti-Panera flyer sponsored by the local carpenter's union at the Gentle Dental in Porter Square a couple of weeks ago. It said, amongst other things, that Panera was using non-union carpenters, but didn't say where.

Date: 2011-03-02 09:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] derekp.livejournal.com
Panera doesn't strike me as the type of place that has the same economies of scale as, say, Wal*Mart. Can't Cafe Zing just compete on the merits of it's coffee, prices, and perks as compared to Panera?

Date: 2011-03-02 09:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emcicle.livejournal.com
do they really get that much in coffee sales, especially with a DD's right there as well? and porter square books?

That said, I really like Zing, and also hope this doesn't negatively effect them.

Date: 2011-03-02 09:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jamiesquared.livejournal.com
I dont see how that Qdoba space is even big enough to accommodate a Panera Bread.

Date: 2011-03-02 10:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jamiesquared.livejournal.com
I would think Dunkins has been a bigger threat than a Panera will be in terms of coffee sales?

Date: 2011-03-02 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emcicle.livejournal.com
oh yeah yeah, sorry, my mind totally blanked on that detail!

I only by my drinks from porter square books (or diesel if i'm in davis), but that's because i can get a herbal chai latte (or iced in the summer), and I doubt panera will do that. but again, that's just me. :)

Date: 2011-03-02 10:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gruene.livejournal.com
These guys need to take a page from the IBEW. Don't attack them for hiring non-union workers, that just looks like you're whining. Attack them on some other issue that will resonate with the public.

Google "biotech greed" if you don't know what I'm taking about.

Date: 2011-03-02 10:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] en-ki.livejournal.com
Dunkie's has better coffee and pastry than Panera, but it's lit like a fast food men's room. It's not competition as a hangout space.

Date: 2011-03-02 10:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pakoo.livejournal.com
Did they mention an opening date?
thanks

Date: 2011-03-02 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] en-ki.livejournal.com
That one always just bewildered me. I had no idea who was complaining or what they were complaining about, just that they didn't like biotech. It's like a billboard on Milk Street saying "banks suck!" rather than mentioning, say, bailouts and fraudulent foreclosures.

Date: 2011-03-02 10:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thespian.livejournal.com
there's a downstairs there, too, just no one ever uses it.

Date: 2011-03-02 10:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gruene.livejournal.com
Yes, it was a bit mystifying, but it worked. Genzyme caved and hired union electric workers.

Date: 2011-03-02 10:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] benndragon.livejournal.com
Actually, the focus of the flyer was that Panera's food is no better than any other fast food place in terms of fat and calories - I had to look at the fine print to figure out who even put it out, much less why.

Date: 2011-03-02 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] benndragon.livejournal.com
It's not illegal to hire non-union, this is the union expressing their displeasure at the use of non-union workers by putting out flyers saying that Panera's food is similar to other fast food places in terms of fat and calories (rather than being healthy like they claim). Which is also not illegal.

Date: 2011-03-02 11:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluesauce.livejournal.com
How terrible for him to have to face any competition.

Date: 2011-03-02 11:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] koloratur.livejournal.com
I am excited about the Panera, and terrified about what the parking lot, a clusterf&ck at the best of times, will become when it opens!

Date: 2011-03-03 12:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] real-green-tea.livejournal.com
Panera is a bastion of free wifi and quietude with good lighting. I welcome the possibility of going to such an establishment without having to travel to Fenway or Arlington.

Date: 2011-03-03 01:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jamiesquared.livejournal.com
Agreed on the hanging out type space. I actually love the 1000 calorie pastries at Panera haha.

Date: 2011-03-03 01:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jamiesquared.livejournal.com
Oh I had no idea!

Date: 2011-03-03 01:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jamiesquared.livejournal.com
I actually said the same thing to my husband after reading the post earlier. They are hopefully banking on a lot of foot traffic!

Date: 2011-03-03 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jamiesquared.livejournal.com
There is a Panera in Everett, that is the one I usually go to but I am coming from Teele Sq not Porter...not sure if that would be any more convenient for you :)

Date: 2011-03-03 01:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkgrrl658.livejournal.com
cinnamon sugar bagles OH MY GAW
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