Landlord problem - breaking the lease
Jan. 1st, 2012 04:44 pmI've looked through some of the past posts regarding landlord / tenant issues, and couldn't quite find the information I was looking for. I will be leaving Somerville to move to NYC in February for a new job, and I need to break my apartment lease. My landlord has agreed to terminate my tenancy under the following terms: 1) a light cleaning, and 2) a termination fee equal to 4 months rent. That seems insane to me, and I've been looking around for information online, but everything seems so ambiguous and I haven't been able to find anything definitive. My landlord has also explicitly forbidden subletting. I guess my questions are whether I actually do have to pay this, and if not, how do I respond to this?
I received some advice that suggested that if I'm able to find someone creditworthy interested in assuming the remainder of the lease (I guess that's somehow semantically different from a sublet, although I don't quite know why) then that releases me from the lease, regardless of whether or not the landlord accepts this person.
Does anyone have any experience with a situation like this? I've talked with a bunch of people who have broken their lease and most of them just had to forfeit their security deposit. Four months rent is a lot of money and I'm kind of freaking out. I don't know how to get my landlord to reduce that amount and I don't want this to turn into a messy, ugly situation. Any help would be very much appreciated. Thanks!
I received some advice that suggested that if I'm able to find someone creditworthy interested in assuming the remainder of the lease (I guess that's somehow semantically different from a sublet, although I don't quite know why) then that releases me from the lease, regardless of whether or not the landlord accepts this person.
Does anyone have any experience with a situation like this? I've talked with a bunch of people who have broken their lease and most of them just had to forfeit their security deposit. Four months rent is a lot of money and I'm kind of freaking out. I don't know how to get my landlord to reduce that amount and I don't want this to turn into a messy, ugly situation. Any help would be very much appreciated. Thanks!
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Date: 2011-12-31 09:58 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-12-31 10:07 pm (UTC)and another list of seemingly every landlord/tenant resource in MA: http://www.lawlib.state.ma.us/subject/about/landlord.html
(got the first link from the second's resource list)
definitely seems like the landlord is asking too much.
good luck!
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Date: 2011-12-31 10:59 pm (UTC)what does it say about termination and responsibilities?
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Date: 2011-12-31 11:04 pm (UTC)"25. Lessee's Covenants in Event of Termination
The Lessee covenants that in case of any termination of this lease, by reason of the default of the Lessee, then at the option of the Lessor:
a. the Lessee will forthwith pay to the Lessor as damages hereunder a sum equal to the amount by which the rent and other payments called for hereunder for the remainder of the term, including any extension or renewal thereof, exceed the fair rental value of said premises for the remainder of the term, including any extension or renewal thereof; and
b. the Lessee covenants that he will furthermore indemnify the Lessor from and against any loss and damage sustained by reason of any termination caused by the default or, the breach by, the Lessee. Lessor's damages hereunder shall include, but shall not be limited to the loss of rents; reasonable broker's commissioners for the re-letting of the leased premises; advertising costs; the reasonable cost incurred in cleaning and repainting the premises in order to relet the same; and moving and storage charges incurred by Lessor in moving Lessee's belongings pursuant to eviction proceedings.
c. At the option of the Lessor, however, Lessor's cause of action under this article shall accrue when a new tenancy or lease term first commences subsequent to a termination under this lease, in which event Lessor's damages shall be limited to any and all damages sustained by him prior to said new tenancy or lease date."
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Date: 2011-12-31 11:09 pm (UTC)dunno if MA has restrictions on termination terms or not.
best hire an hour of a lawyer's time.
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Date: 2011-12-31 11:29 pm (UTC)I left my last apartment one month early with no penalty. It worked out well, but I already had a good relationship with the landlord, so the negotiation was simple...and I still gave the required 90 day notice that was stated in my lease.
In related news, I know a very responsible, professional 30-something individual looking for an apartment in the area...
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Date: 2012-01-01 12:24 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-01-01 08:00 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-01-01 07:00 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-01-01 08:56 pm (UTC)Well, "good," until you have to move out, apparently.
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Date: 2012-01-01 09:00 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-01-01 09:00 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-01-01 09:04 pm (UTC)http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/sub/2777318735.html
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Date: 2012-01-02 12:09 am (UTC)This is not true, in my non-lawyerly opinion. The landlord is required to make a good-faith effort to rent the apartment.
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Date: 2012-01-02 12:50 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-01-02 01:16 am (UTC)good != willing to let me do whatever I want
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Date: 2012-01-02 01:23 am (UTC)"Hi [landlord's name],
I received your letter concerning the proposed terms for the termination of tenancy at [my address]. I have a few questions and comments regarding the conditions.
The first term concerning cleaning the apartment is perfectly reasonable and appropriate. I plan on giving the entire apartment a thorough cleaning before vacating, but I will pay special attention to the areas you mention in the letter (appliances, baseboards, blinds, and woodwork).
I have consulted with a lawyer concerning the termination fee and it seems as though there may be another option that would be beneficial to both of us. I have become acquainted with XXX who is interested in renting the apartment starting February 1st. I am not talking about subletting, but a new tenant with a new lease. XXX is very eager to do this, is creditworthy (works at XXX making XXX), and is willing to agree to a long-term lease extending through August 31, 2013 (but can be flexible depending on your preference). I know you prefer to keep your lease schedules in August. XXX is also willing and able to pay first month’s rent and a security deposit immediately. I would be responsible for any costs required to facilitate this transition, as is stated in section 25 of the lease. If you would like to pursue this, I can provide you with XXX’s contact information.
I know that this is different from your initial proposal, but it seems like this is a solution that meets both of our needs. I hope that you will consider this matter and let me know what you think of it."
Thoughts?
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Date: 2012-01-02 04:17 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-01-02 05:50 pm (UTC)That said, I have a couple of thoughts on your response.
First, you may not want to indicate that you have spoken to a lawyer at this point. It sounds like you are still on relatively good terms with your landlord now, and letting him know you have sought legal counsel might change the tone of your interactions. As such, you might want to wait to bring that up, and only if issues escalate. You obviously know your landlord better and how he is likely to react, and perhaps bringing up the lawyer at this point is fine in your case, but just something to consider.
Second, you might want to offer to help find tenants before actually doing so (or at least before letting him know you are doing so, since it sounds like you have already started). I am speaking from experience here: I went ahead and started looking for new tenants. However, when I let my landlord know that I had done so, and even provided information on potential renters, he indicated that he had his own process, and refused to contact them. On one hand, I felt that provided me a strong case against him making a "good faith" effort if he was unable to find a new tenant on his own. On the other hand, I felt like I had just pissed him off, which didn't help. So, I still think offering to help is a good idea, but it might be best to reach out to your landlord first to see how you could be of the most help to him.
In the end, it worked out, and he found a new tenant (although it was VERY close to when I was set to move). One thing that I found helped was to VERY flexible in allowing my landlord to show the apartment to potential tenants. In some cases, I was given very little notice when he wanted to show it, and as annoying and frustrating as that was at times, I did my best to accomodate these showings.
In general, I think just demonstrating that you are helpful and cooperative, but at the same time, standing your ground that you will not pay what seem to be illegal fees, may be your best bet. If it is a decent place and the rent is fair, he shouldn't have too much trouble re-renting it.
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Date: 2012-01-02 06:51 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2012-01-03 03:36 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-01-06 03:09 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-01-07 04:03 am (UTC)My gut says that it can be gotten out of for less than that, and that if you're gone, and you make as if you can't or won't pay up, then the landlord will find the time to find and accept a new tenant at the same or lower rent, to cut his losses (at which point your obligation will be much lower, since he doesn't get to double-rent the place, and you can pay the difference).
You do need a lawyer, but a lawyer prepared to handle renter issues can be had at non-ruinous cost.
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Date: 2012-01-07 04:14 am (UTC)