[personal profile] ron_newman posting in [community profile] davis_square
[continuing the discussion that started here: Help! I am being sued for my participation in davis_square ]

I have placed on Dropbox a scan of the Amended Complaint that I was served with yesterday afternoon.

Here's a list of username handles mentioned in the lawsuit: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/d231f81633d2a4163536 . Most are from LJ, but a few are from the Wicked Local/Somerville Journal blog, and one is from journalfen.com .

Someone also found the original complaint in a court database. (I was never served with this one.)

The amended complaint has hundreds of pages of attached exhibits, which I did NOT scan in. They are copies of posts and comments to [livejournal.com profile] davis_square, [livejournal.com profile] davis_snark, [livejournal.com profile] sf_drama, discussions at journalfen.com, blog posts and comments at Wicked Local Somerville (Somerville Journal), Encyclopedia Dramatica article, etc.
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Date: 2013-05-01 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misterthorn.livejournal.com
Thanks for sharing this. My condolences for the travail this must represent for you. I hope it all comes out well for you, and at minimal psychic, emotional, and physical cost. It couldn't have happened to a nicer guy!

Date: 2013-05-01 06:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rufinia.livejournal.com
I would ask that all people who aren't lawyers please refrain from giving legal advice right now. Ron is working on getting an attorney and will go from there.

Date: 2013-05-01 06:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-chance.livejournal.com
Yes, this!

Date: 2013-05-01 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mamajoan.livejournal.com
What he(?) said.

Date: 2013-05-01 07:48 pm (UTC)
ifotismeni: (Phantom x Pacifica  - peacekeeper)
From: [personal profile] ifotismeni
Folks - I've reached out to Ron about any support he might need from the community once he has received legal counsel. As soon as we know what's needed to support fighting this, expect some organization (socially, financially, whatever is needed). Watch this space.

Date: 2013-05-01 08:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] browngirl.livejournal.com
Thank you for doing this. *makes a note*

Date: 2013-05-01 08:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rmd.livejournal.com
Yeah. I suspect all this added publicity is going to be a great example of the Streisand effect (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect) in action.

Date: 2013-05-01 09:10 pm (UTC)
smammy: (Default)
From: [personal profile] smammy
For the lazy, here's a list of the 28 does who are mentioned by online handle in the amended complaint.

Date: 2013-05-01 09:15 pm (UTC)
smammy: (Default)
From: [personal profile] smammy
Sorry, I'm awful. The correct link is: the 28 does who are mentioned by online handle.

Date: 2013-05-01 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emcicle.livejournal.com
I wonder where the claim of 100 does comes from, if only 29 are singled out in the complaint?

Date: 2013-05-01 09:39 pm (UTC)
ext_86356: (Default)
From: [identity profile] qwrrty.livejournal.com
The complaint says "including but not limited to."

Date: 2013-05-01 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rozasharn.livejournal.com
Yeech! Unfortunately I don't have any lawyers handy to recommend, but best wishes!

Date: 2013-05-01 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marphod.livejournal.com
It wouldn't hurt to see if the ACLU or EFF would be interested in the case. Not that the content is what I'd want to see as a test case, it does hit their assorted bailiwicks.

The Berkman Center was also going to be a suggestion. It also might be worth seeing if someone at other local law schools/university centers would be interested. There's also a Technology and Law program at MIT ( http://ssrc.mit.edu/tl/ ).

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Given the legal requirements to prove a libel case (http://injury.findlaw.com/torts-and-personal-injuries/elements-of-libel-and-slander.html), I can't imagine that this case is going anywhere, but better safe than sorry.

(In particular: "Generally, courts require a plaintiff to prove that he or she has been defamed in the eyes of the community or within a defined group within the community." ... Within the eyes of the davis_snark community is going to be hard.)

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As for legal advice, it is probably best to ignore any you get here.

Any given by someone who isn't a lawyer is subject to high skepticism, and as I understand it, it is an ethical violation for lawyers to give specific legal advice without being closer to a party in the case.

Date: 2013-05-01 11:36 pm (UTC)
gingicat: deep purple lilacs, some buds, some open (just me - ginger)
From: [personal profile] gingicat
There are three people I've known for years on that list, fwiw.

Date: 2013-05-01 11:38 pm (UTC)
spatch: (Default)
From: [personal profile] spatch
HE'S GOING TO SUE THE WORLD (said sarcastically)

Date: 2013-05-01 11:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tikva.livejournal.com
Yeah, at least one of those people is going to be a little hard to find for paper-serving purposes. Which is fine, really.

Date: 2013-05-02 12:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lheena.livejournal.com
I have helenvalentine friended on LJ, and I just sent her a message in case she's the same one. I have no idea how/if/what she should do, but I'm assuming if we know any of them, we should give them a headup, yes?

Date: 2013-05-02 01:42 am (UTC)
gingicat: deep purple lilacs, some buds, some open (just me - ginger)
From: [personal profile] gingicat
Yup.

Date: 2013-05-02 01:44 am (UTC)
gingicat: deep purple lilacs, some buds, some open (just me - ginger)
From: [personal profile] gingicat
My condolences. I'll be hoping it gets shot down hard and he gets fined for a frivolous lawsuit. (Even better, have criminal charges filed for the date rape such that he actually has to answer to them. But that is unlikely.)

Date: 2013-05-02 02:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ukelele.livejournal.com
Courtney of ward5online? Like....the alderman?

Date: 2013-05-02 04:14 am (UTC)
siderea: (The Charmer)
From: [personal profile] siderea
Ron, I'm so sorry you're going through this, and likewise my sympathies to all the other targeted parties. I am shocked and appalled.

Do keep us all updated, please.
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