When did gentrification happen?
Sep. 15th, 2015 03:20 amAfter reading some of the recent posts here, I wanted to ask...
I moved to Davis Square area in 2005. It seemed to me that gentrification had already happened. Is that people's sense? Was I a gentrifier? Did it happen since then and I wasn't paying attention? I'm sort of perplexed it is coming up in discussions in the recent election because it seems like this happened a long time ago.
Appreciate you being patient with my ignorance. Welcome people's thought though.
I moved to Davis Square area in 2005. It seemed to me that gentrification had already happened. Is that people's sense? Was I a gentrifier? Did it happen since then and I wasn't paying attention? I'm sort of perplexed it is coming up in discussions in the recent election because it seems like this happened a long time ago.
Appreciate you being patient with my ignorance. Welcome people's thought though.
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Date: 2015-09-15 10:31 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-09-15 10:51 am (UTC)I think by the time you moved here, the gentrification was already in mid-phase. The archives of this LJ community are actually full of history, and you can click back to 2005 and get a sense of the neighborhood vibe at the time.
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Date: 2015-09-15 11:17 am (UTC)http://jensorensen.com/2013/04/15/gentrification-cartoon/
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Date: 2015-09-15 12:35 pm (UTC)But my vague impression is that in the 1980s, Davis was dominated by people who had grown up in Somerville, but people like my parents (college-educated, white-collar, but not rolling in cash) were moving into the close-to-Cambridge parts of Somerville because it was cheaper, and the T stations facilitated that; by the 1990s when I was in/graduating from college, Davis had become the place where just-graduated college students went because it was a) easily on the Red Line, b) full of 4-bedroom rental apartments, and c) affordable on a starting white-collar salary, if you had roommates. When I was looking to buy a place, ~2003/4, all those 2- and 3- family houses that had been rental properties were being converted into condos. I'm not entirely clear if the developers thought they were marketing to my demographic again, i.e. the people who went to college in the Boston area, stayed and got high-paying white-collar jobs, had not yet had kids, and were 5-10 years out of school and looking to move from renting to buying, but not looking to migrate to the suburbs. I don't think we were the people who particularly wanted granite countertops and jacuzzis -- we mostly still wanted to walk to the T and be near the ex-college-student colony. Come to think of it, I don't know a huge number of people besides myself who bought those condos (and mine is not the granite-countertops-markup variety). Which suggests that there must have been an even-more-gentrified-than-me population moving in around that time?
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Date: 2015-09-15 12:51 pm (UTC)Gentrification can obviously bring benefits, but do we want to keep going indefinitely down the same road and end up as a denser Belmont?
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Date: 2015-09-15 12:52 pm (UTC)Edit: I added the history tag to this post. Those posts are worth looking through again. (Thank you
Edit 2: Your mention of Someday Cafe prompted me to look up when it opened and closed: 1992 to 2006.
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Date: 2015-09-15 02:13 pm (UTC)(And then there's the more recent conversion of a lot of rental apartments into condos, which I have to assume has pushed the remaining rents up still further, and probably shifted the population of residents towards somewhat older and richer demographics, i.e. buyers rather than renters, but youngish buyers.)
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Date: 2015-09-15 02:17 pm (UTC)I think it really started in the late 90s (so yes, I am also to blame).
But now it is getting to that every home sale in the area is to turn into luxury condos, and the number of "good enough" apartments that don't have granite and stainless steel and also might have semi-affordable rent is dwindling even faster. At least that's my perspective from over near Lexington Park.
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Date: 2015-09-15 02:42 pm (UTC)I was living just over the Cambridge line when rent control was defeated. Our rent for a 3-1/2 bedroom (but a small one, so about the size of the Ball Square apartment) went from $850 to $1000 immediately and to $1600 within a year.
There have been a few really crazy periods of house price inflation. You know the kind, where sellers research what their house is worth and list it for a little higher than that but not too much higher because they don't want it to be unseemly, but in the meantime housing prices have gone up so much that all the offers are for more than asking. When we were buying in 1997 we walked into a well-kept 2-family in a great location that was listed for $370K, immediately knew that we couldn't afford it, offered what we could afford which was $390K, and didn't get it. I think of that summer as when the housing prices caught up with the rental prices. Of course that's happening again now, as rents have redoubled since then, with most of that coming in the last couple of years.
All that said, I think of gentrification as a wave that's been spreading outward from the T, with some pauses for recessions, almost since it opened, starting with the construction of what's now the Harvard Vanguard Medical building.
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Date: 2015-09-15 03:03 pm (UTC)