Snow/Parking Update
Dec. 18th, 2007 01:08 pmWe just sent this out via Connect CTY:
While the city has NOT declared a snow emergency, the DPW is continuing to salt and sand roads and to remove snow at major intersections and city squares. Despite parking scarcity, residents must NOT park within twenty feet of intersections, obstruct the street, block hydrants or handicapped spaces, or violate resident permit parking. Residents and businesses are also reminded that they are REQUIRED to remove snow and ice from their sidewalks and to put down sand to improve traction. If you do not have access to sand, you may receive a free supply by bringing an empty container of five gallons or less to the DPW yard at 1 Franey Road. To further assist residents, the city will continue to provide overnight parking from 5 p.m. to 7 a.m. in designated city and school lots through and including Thursday night. Residents currently in legal curbside spaces have until Thursday morning at 8 a.m. to dig out and move their cars before the city resumes ticketing for parking over 48 hours. Thank you for assisting the city in clearing our roadways. If you need additional information, please visit the city’s website or call 311.
Just so LJ folks know, I have since learned that some 48-hour rule tickets may have been issued by the police . This isn't their fault -- they were authorized to do it -- but anyone who has received a 48-hour violation in the past 12 hours should call 311 right away. They should also PLEASE move their vehicles as soon as humanly possible -- we'll start enforcing on Thursday at 8 a.m., but earlier compliance would be very helpful.
PS Thanks to knowledgeable LJers schpahky and mamajoan for clarifying that the city will continue to street-sweep as and where we are able (we do tht all winter), but we won't be ticketing.
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While the city has NOT declared a snow emergency, the DPW is continuing to salt and sand roads and to remove snow at major intersections and city squares. Despite parking scarcity, residents must NOT park within twenty feet of intersections, obstruct the street, block hydrants or handicapped spaces, or violate resident permit parking. Residents and businesses are also reminded that they are REQUIRED to remove snow and ice from their sidewalks and to put down sand to improve traction. If you do not have access to sand, you may receive a free supply by bringing an empty container of five gallons or less to the DPW yard at 1 Franey Road. To further assist residents, the city will continue to provide overnight parking from 5 p.m. to 7 a.m. in designated city and school lots through and including Thursday night. Residents currently in legal curbside spaces have until Thursday morning at 8 a.m. to dig out and move their cars before the city resumes ticketing for parking over 48 hours. Thank you for assisting the city in clearing our roadways. If you need additional information, please visit the city’s website or call 311.
Just so LJ folks know, I have since learned that some 48-hour rule tickets may have been issued by the police . This isn't their fault -- they were authorized to do it -- but anyone who has received a 48-hour violation in the past 12 hours should call 311 right away. They should also PLEASE move their vehicles as soon as humanly possible -- we'll start enforcing on Thursday at 8 a.m., but earlier compliance would be very helpful.
PS Thanks to knowledgeable LJers schpahky and mamajoan for clarifying that the city will continue to street-sweep as and where we are able (we do tht all winter), but we won't be ticketing.
Tags: local government, parking, snow emergency
Current Location: office
Current Mood: frantic
Current Music: ringing phones
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Date: 2007-12-18 08:17 pm (UTC)I dug my car out very nicely. I drove it today, and mercifully got my same nice spot again. How does the city know this? In other words, if drive and then move back to my same spot without a parking officer seeing me, will I get a 48 hour ticket (as of Thursday)?
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Date: 2007-12-18 09:01 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-12-18 09:04 pm (UTC)I've always wondered what the city thinks people who go on vacation or otherwise have to leave town are supposed to do with their on-street parked car. Between the 48-hour law and the April-December street cleaning, you're basically stuck unless you know someone with an extra off-street parking space (or who is willing to move your car around periodically). It seems like there should be a "safe area" where people can leave their vehicles, perhaps for a nominal daily charge.
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Date: 2007-12-18 10:40 pm (UTC)The theory is that encouraging turnover gives more "turns" to more people. A person who leaves his/her vehicle at the curb for a week at a time is essentially claiming a "personal" space. I would argue that curbside parking is a public resource that should be shared by lots of different drivers. The 48-hour rule puts everyone (at least in theory) on a more equal footing in terms of access to a scarce and valuable community resource.
I once got an angry email from a resident who said the city should reward her with a "permanent" space because, while she had a car, she commuted by T and therefore was a better environmental citizen than those who drive. So she felt she should have her cake (a car whenever she wanted one)and eat it too (a free parking space for as long as she needed it).
Out of curiosity, does anyone know how much it costs to rent an off-street space by the month here in Somerville?
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Date: 2007-12-18 11:28 pm (UTC)http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/wan/511887960.html
which is offering $100 for a spot near Central & Broadway. I don't know if that's actually representative though - it was the only relevant post I found on craigslist with a quick search.
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Date: 2007-12-18 11:43 pm (UTC)This is why we have the 48-hour rule. BTW: Except for the post-snowstorm enforcement sweeps, almost all of the tickets issued for this violation are the result of call-in complaints from the neighbors.
PS My wife really likes your avatar/icon image.
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Date: 2007-12-18 11:44 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-12-19 12:32 am (UTC)1. What happens to people who use their car everyday and often come home to find the space they left is still available and park back in it: How do the T&P enforcement people know this and would they believe the driver if he/she made this argument? (anecdotal evidence says not)
Similarly, what if I am parked, drive to the grocery store and come home to find the only spot available is the one I left earlier. Why should I have any less "right" to park there than anyone else who might have come along during the time I was gone? And yet I would often hesitate to park there for fear of being interpreted as not having left the spot at all.
2. People who do not use their car daily, in order to comply with this rule, may simply go out at some point when there is a space available and move their car from one space to another. How does this benefit anyone else (assuming the spaces comparable in terms of location, etc.)?
3. The mentioned residents' less than stellar approach aside, the city should be doing what it can to encourage people to be better environmental citizens, or at least not actively discouraging less use of cars. This rule is actively hostile towards people who do not use their cars often. (Obviously not having a car at all would be the best from an environmental perspective, but assuming some people can't or won't be without a car, the less usage the better.)
4. The comparison to renting spaces is specious. Paying for a rented space guarantees you a space whenever you want it (whenever you happen to get home, regardless of street cleaning/snow emergencies, whatever), lets you park always in the same place, and lets you keep your car off the street (safer for the car). It is only secondarily about being able to leave your car parked as long as you like. All being able to leave your car in one place on the street means is just that: you can leave your car where it is until you need or want to use it. (Within reason, of course. I would have no problem with a 14-day, for example.) I really don't see how this is a valid comparison.
If we assume that a person is not going to drive more often than they would otherwise because of this rule (and I really doubt that would be its effect) that person's car would be parked in one space or another; what difference, from a "use of public resources" perspective, does is make which space that is?
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Date: 2007-12-19 01:19 am (UTC)1. The non-anecdotal evidence suggests that, except for post snow emergency enforcement, the great majority of 48 hour tickets are issued because of phone-in complaints from neighbors. (I don't assert that this is 100 percent true, just generally true.) When T&P gets these calls, they still wait forty-eight hours before issuing the citation (so that they're not just taking the word of someone in the neighborhood who covets the space).
2. It may not benefit the neighborhood as a whole, but it keeps more spaces at play in more locations. (There's a great space right outside my door. It's wonderful to have visitors pull in there, put our visitor permit placard in the window and dash in. I can't keep someone else from parking there, but I sure do like it when they move on and that great space opens up again -- even if "moving on" means only that they shifted across the street.
3. The emerging response to this problem is the Zipcar. The city has worked closely with Zipcar in the past, and I know that the mayor is very open to the idea of expanding Zipcar locations. As the company says in their marketing, "wheels when you need them" is an approach that provides cars to those who wish to minimize their carbon footprint but need a transportation option that falls in between renting for the weekend and taking the T (or biking).
4. Curbside "dwell time" has real value, if not so much as a full-tme rented space. You (and Ron) may believe that 48 hours is too small a window, but I would argue that 14 days is way too long.
What do others think is the right length of time -- that is, fairest to all parties?
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Date: 2007-12-19 01:27 am (UTC)I could certainly accept (not that it's up to me, obviously, this is just my opinion) something in between 48-hours and 14 days as fair to most parties. I mentioned 14-days just as an example. Personally I think something like 7 days would be great. Even 4 or 5 days would be a whole lot better than 2.
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Date: 2007-12-27 04:27 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-12-27 06:45 pm (UTC)That's not the officially published explanation, though:
"The 'Over 48 Hour' regulation is designed to prevent non-resident vehicles from being stored on city streets and to identify and remove abandoned or stolen vehicles."
The 48 hour rule impact on non-resident vehicles would be minimal on resident-only parking streets, were the resident-only parking issue enforced.
If I go away for three days, my car isn't abandoned.
A car sitting on a street for more than 48 hours isn't, necessarily, abandoned or stolen.
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Date: 2007-12-18 10:25 pm (UTC)Edifying Discussion
Date: 2007-12-19 04:17 pm (UTC)Taken as a whole, this discussion exemplifies an ongoing dilemma of public policy: someone is ALWAYS going to experience some degree of unfairness from any policy. Rough justice and approximate equity are the most we can hope for.
As for extending the duration of what is is currently a 48-hour Rule (and in practice really is more like a "4-day" rule except after snowstorms or when has mendacious and vindictive neighbors), I note that wallacestreet reports that Alderman Rebekah Gewirtz expressed the view that this was a political non-starter, and I expect she's right.
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