This is a tricky message to write because, while it references a couple of other threads, it is primarily a personal message.
First, I want to note once that, once again without help from "official sources," the DS community has done an outstanding job of covering the public policy issues around street sweeping procedures and ticketing. The only additional elements I would add are that:
* The $50 ticket does seem to acting as a deterrent. (I'll try to get the actual numbers, but the city wrote more tickets back when it was $25. Apparently, some folks saw the lower fine as bearable, but bestirred themselves to comply when the fine went up.)
* If we wanted to "maximize revenue," the city would set a lower penalty so that we would get to write more tickets. The goal here really is to improve compliance.
* The reason that the sweeping schedule varies from neighborhood to neighborhood (second and fourth Mondays in mine, first and third Tuesdays in yours), is that we don't have enough equipment or personnel to do the all the even- (or odd-) numbered streets citywide on the same day.
I could go on but, as already noted, other posters covered almost everything in this debate -- including the fact that it's always infuriating to get a ticket, even when it's your fault and even when there are good reasons for the policy. I appreciate the fact that so many members of this community essentially said "Yeah, it stinks, but it is what it is." You have to be careful or you'll get a reputation for being grown-ups -- and who wants that?
Second, I want to apologize for not being more in evidence in recent weeks. I participated in a family vacation trip to London from March 19th to the 26th (a word of appreciation goes out here to Somerville Critter Care for minding the cats and the house) and returned to find that my 85-year-old father has gone into the hospital with some serious problems. I've been spending a lot of time there and am going to have to continue to do so.
Therefore, and third, I will be not be making an appearance at the Burren, for which I offer apologies in advance.
Sorry to be such a Capt.Bringdown.>:(

I'll try to make a future meet-up.
First, I want to note once that, once again without help from "official sources," the DS community has done an outstanding job of covering the public policy issues around street sweeping procedures and ticketing. The only additional elements I would add are that:
* The $50 ticket does seem to acting as a deterrent. (I'll try to get the actual numbers, but the city wrote more tickets back when it was $25. Apparently, some folks saw the lower fine as bearable, but bestirred themselves to comply when the fine went up.)
* If we wanted to "maximize revenue," the city would set a lower penalty so that we would get to write more tickets. The goal here really is to improve compliance.
* The reason that the sweeping schedule varies from neighborhood to neighborhood (second and fourth Mondays in mine, first and third Tuesdays in yours), is that we don't have enough equipment or personnel to do the all the even- (or odd-) numbered streets citywide on the same day.
I could go on but, as already noted, other posters covered almost everything in this debate -- including the fact that it's always infuriating to get a ticket, even when it's your fault and even when there are good reasons for the policy. I appreciate the fact that so many members of this community essentially said "Yeah, it stinks, but it is what it is." You have to be careful or you'll get a reputation for being grown-ups -- and who wants that?
Second, I want to apologize for not being more in evidence in recent weeks. I participated in a family vacation trip to London from March 19th to the 26th (a word of appreciation goes out here to Somerville Critter Care for minding the cats and the house) and returned to find that my 85-year-old father has gone into the hospital with some serious problems. I've been spending a lot of time there and am going to have to continue to do so.
Therefore, and third, I will be not be making an appearance at the Burren, for which I offer apologies in advance.
Sorry to be such a Capt.Bringdown.>:(

I'll try to make a future meet-up.
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Date: 2008-04-02 03:25 pm (UTC)(But while I've got you on the line here -- what do you think of the idea of starting street cleaning at 9 or 10 instead of 8 am?)
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Date: 2008-04-02 03:28 pm (UTC)because you can replace guilt with money.
so, smart move with the 50 bucks. as a carless guy, it doesn't impact me anyways :D
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Date: 2008-04-02 03:30 pm (UTC)* If we wanted to "maximize revenue," the city would set a lower penalty so that we would get to write more tickets. The goal here really is to improve compliance.
How does having a lower penalty allow the city to write more tickets? Is it that a lower penalty ensures more non-compliance and hence more tickets? I would think that the city can write as many tickets as there are non-compliant cars.
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Date: 2008-04-02 03:42 pm (UTC)2. If we started street sweeping later, we'd finish later and the job would overlap the 4 p.m. shift change. that, in turn, would raise issues of overtime, shift size, and switching over equipment and drivers from one shift to another.
3. There's a price-point at which many more vehicle owners would just as soon pay as comply. If you find it, you maximize revenue. It may actually be less than $50, but it's more than $25. The fines are set by ordinance, however, so we have a very limited ability to experiment with incremental adjustments. As the aldermen will tell you, the $50 level was set to deter, not raise added revenue.
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Date: 2008-04-04 05:22 am (UTC)how about delaying in school areas?
Date: 2008-04-04 07:53 pm (UTC)Sorry to hear about your father.
I had heard that some progress had been made to delay street cleaning tickets in school drop off areas until 9am.
With a strict 8:21 start time, it is ugly and brutal around the Healey School on these 4 days / month. It really seems like cruel and unusual punishment. Many of us walk our young children into the building, so we're out by 8:40.
Thanks for any insight into this issue.
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Date: 2008-04-07 01:01 pm (UTC)I have a question about Lexington Ave. Friday sawhorses appeared, placed on both sides of the street, for about 1/3 the length of the street. There are no dates, just the standard "work area, no parking 7:00-4:00". The neighbors are concerned about what type of work is going to be done, and how long it will last. Also, after getting those "there's a snowstorm coming in case you didn't already know" robo-calls all winter, why don't we get a call when something like this is taking place? If it's just for one day it's not too bad, but there's no indication of dates which makes me wonder if it will be long-term. If so, it could create real parking problems on the street! Thanks for any info you can provide.