[identity profile] tomchampion.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] davis_square
After the disastrous problem I encountered the last time I tried to check out information for this group, I wanted to take my time and be doubly sure before providing a response to yesterday's posting about street sweeping tickets issued on Holland Street in the small hours of Wednesday morning.

Thanks to a thorough review of this matter by T&P Director Jim Kotzuba (who says “hello” even to those of you who say that his department “sucks ass”), here is what I can tell you:

1. The odd-numbered side of Holland Street (the side on which PJ Ryan’s is located) is posted for street sweeping every other WEDNESDAY. It is the EVEN-NUMBERED side of the street that is posted for MONDAYS. This has been the case for years, and it is also the case along other major arterial roadways (such as Highland Avenue).
2. Presumably, the PCO (parking control officer) voided on_reserve’s ticket because on_reserve appeared on the curb – ready, willing, and able to drive away, clearly not planning to stand in the way of the street sweeper – and the PCO decided to give a resident a break. It certainly appears, however, that tickets issued on the odd side of Holland Street after midnight on Wednesday (there were fewer than 10 in all) were valid and correct.
3. No tickets were written for the opposite side of the street. T&P will, however, review the tickets from that route and shift, and will void any tickets written in error, sending correspondence to anyone who was affected. In other words, if it’s clear that a ticket was written in error, no further action will be required on the part of the vehicle owner and he/she will receive written confirmation that the violation has been voided.
4. The PCO was entirely right simply to tell on_reserve that, if drivers believed their tickets were issued in error, they should appeal them. For obvious reasons, PCOs are trained not to get into curbside disputes or lengthy discussions with drivers.

Other miscellaneous points:

1. The impact of street-sweeping parking regulations on businesses that operate past midnight is mitigated by the fact that only one side of the street has sweeping regulations in effect on any given night (and, even then, only four nights per month). These are long-established regulations of which local bars can — and should be – well aware. They pose no great hardship in terms of the availability of parking although, admittedly, people who start drinking at, say, 9 p.m. probably don’t look at the parking signs closely when they come in and wouldn’t know they had to move their cars at midnight unless the bartender prompted them. But from April to December, the streets must be cleaned and these rules are clear, consistent, and longstanding.
2. As to the assertion that the city is “running a racket” with street sweeping regulations: It’s worth noting that 3,378 fewer street sweeping tickets were written in FY2008 (the fiscal year just ended on June 30th) than in FY2007 – even though there were more PCOs on the street. That’s a nine percent decline and, presumably, a sign of better compliance.
3. Nobody showed up at the Mayor’s Diesel Café office hour to discuss parking policies or anything else. Not one single soul.

Date: 2008-07-10 06:52 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
How was the mayor's office hour publicized? I got an e-mail from Stephanie Hirsch around 12:30 yesterday afternoon, which I promptly posted to [livejournal.com profile] davis_square. But that's less than 6 hours notice.

Date: 2008-07-10 07:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thetathx1138.livejournal.com
I was actually in Diesel around that time yesterday and just saw people staring into their laptops.

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Date: 2008-07-10 06:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellf.livejournal.com
Thanks for the update, Tom - it's always appreciated, and doubly so when backed up with statistics.

Nobody showed up at the Mayor’s Diesel Café office hour to discuss parking policies or anything else. Not one single soul.

I hadn't heard about this until the day of. While I hardly qualify as a bellwether of public awareness, perhaps a slightly louder announcement next time around?

Date: 2008-07-10 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
Google street-view unfortunately doesn't have quite high enough resolution to show the parking signs legibly. What I do see are meters. Do street-sweeping rules apply to metered spaces?

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Date: 2008-07-10 07:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plumtreeblossom.livejournal.com
That's sad that nobody showed up to talk with the Mayor. Now I really wish I'd gone...

Date: 2008-07-10 07:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellf.livejournal.com
Yeah - Tom makes it sound like the Mayor was lonely, which is an amusing bit of imagination. Maybe he got a cup of tea, played some pool?

Date: 2008-07-10 07:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thebostonreader.livejournal.com
That's too bad about the office hour. I couldn't have gone anyway, but I'd have thought there would be some cranks who could make it in even on short notice. I think it's a great idea - I hope it happens again, on a night I can go (I work evenings Tues.-Thurs.).

Date: 2008-07-10 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thetathx1138.livejournal.com
I'll pledge to show up the next time he takes an office hour. What the hell, I'd like to meet the mayor.

Date: 2008-07-10 07:17 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-07-10 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
He's pretty easy to meet if you go to local events. I even ran into him at the Davis Square CVS a month or two ago.

Date: 2008-07-10 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] closetalker11.livejournal.com
He's a nice guy.

Date: 2008-07-10 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] m00n.livejournal.com
Same!!

Date: 2008-07-10 07:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jamiesquared.livejournal.com
May I ask a strange question, I never am able to get an answer out of the parking office.

Last year we got numerous commercial parking tickets on my husbands plumbing van. Completely fine as that was our fault and the rule is no commercial parking overnight. However, around the corner from my house is a plumber who parks his van EVERY night for the last two years on the street. I complained to the parking office and they told me under no circumstances is that allowed and I should report it when I see him there. Well I have done that and I swear nothing is ever done. I walk my dogs at night and early a.m. Ive never seen a ticket. Also he has a Somerville parking sticker in his window...how is that even possible when somerville doesnt issue parking stickers for commercial cars? I normally dont complain about stuff like this but it really annoys me especially since noone will give me an answer in the parking office.

Date: 2008-07-11 01:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_meej_/
Not trying to be snarky here - does he actually have commercial plates on the car? Whether or not it's sporting his plumbing logo isn't the defining factor, as you probably know, it's just easy to assume it would have plates. (I'd guess that it does and you've checked, but... well... on the off chance it's your answer, might as well ask.)

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Date: 2008-07-10 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] srakkt.livejournal.com
It sounds as though stuff's in order over on Holland with the ticketing, which is good to hear. Thanks much for checking up on that!

Also, thank you to the Mayor for trying, at least, with the 'office hours' - though more advance notice would have improved turnout.

Date: 2008-07-10 07:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] on-reserve.livejournal.com
I was parked on the EVEN SIDE of the street. THAT is why my ticket was voided. I was standing RIGHT UNDER the sign that said "MONDAY" in huge blue letters (most of the rest of the sign was faded).

PCO voided my ticket but left other tickets on other cars that were parked on the EVEN/Monday side of the street. He did NOT void my ticket out of kindness but because it was WRONGLY ISSUED.

ARGH! I wasn't annoyed that much before but I am now!

Per #3 - Maybe if the Mayor gave more lead-time in announcing office hours, more people would have come.

Original comment deleted and re-posted due to odd/even mix-up. I was parked on the EVEN side of the street (In front of Angelina's/Sabur) and the tickets left on cars were on cars parked on that side. My friend just went to T&P today (in person) and had her ticket voided.
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Date: 2008-07-10 07:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellf.livejournal.com
"The odd-numbered side of Holland Street (the side on which PJ Ryan’s is located) is posted for street sweeping every other WEDNESDAY."

That seems to directly contradict what you saw on the sign. Maybe worth taking a photograph?
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Date: 2008-07-10 07:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cnoocy

T&P Director Jim Kotzuba (who says “hello” even to those of you who say that his department “sucks ass”)

Jim Kotzuba is my hero for the day.

Date: 2008-07-10 07:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thetathx1138.livejournal.com
He's probably heard a lot worse. Probably it's been said to his face.

Date: 2008-07-10 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firstfrost.livejournal.com
(Unrelated to this particular issue, I find that when I learn things like "The T is closed from Kendall to Park this weekend", I am always (unjustly, I know) disappointed that I haven't been called by Tom Champion to tell me!)

Mayor's Office Hour

Date: 2008-07-10 07:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] androidqueen.livejournal.com
Yeah, I have to chime in here with everyone else. I couldn't make the office hour (1 single hour!) because I didn't hear about it until the last minute, and I have work. I think it's rather poor form to chastise the members of this community for not being able to reschedule their lives with only a few hours notice.

Re: Mayor's Office Hour

Date: 2008-07-10 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] svilletheatre.livejournal.com
I wouldn't call what Tom wrote "chastising" but I suppose everyone takes things differently.

I don't know if some people are aware just how incredibly rare and positive it is that a city official takes the time to respond in such detail like this on a website of this nature - I seriously doubt this happens in most cities with our population, never mind small towns. This is DOUBLY amazing if you or your family grew up in Somerville and remember how, uh, shall we say, inaccessible this city was a generation ago when it came to stuff like this - it is like night and day.

Just my .02 cents:)

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Oh noes!

Date: 2008-07-10 08:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterhill.livejournal.com
Tomcat! You didn't tell him it was *me* who said they suck ass, did you? Because I don't need no more hassle with my parking tickets.

(Just kidding -- I DO feel kinda bad about that, but I also think some of the byzantine ticketing and appealing rules are set up to frustrate us. Tell Jim I'm sorry, mkay?)

And although I have spoken to the Mayor on several occasions it makes me sad to think of him sitting there alone during his Office Hour. I agree with other posters that a little more warning would yield a different result. I like Joe and it would be fun to chat with him in that context.

Re: Oh noes!

Date: 2008-07-10 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterhill.livejournal.com
And also thank you for tracking down the resolution to this issue.

Date: 2008-07-10 08:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lonelyholiday.livejournal.com
Whoa, wait, the tomchampion account was just deleted. What happened?

Date: 2008-07-10 08:18 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2008-07-10 08:53 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
I just e-mailed him this:
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Subject: Did someone delete your LiveJournal account?

It looks like someone may have hacked into your LiveJournal account and deleted it? Let me know if I can help straighten this out.

Date: 2008-07-10 09:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosiewoodboat.livejournal.com
Don't you think you've done enough?

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Date: 2008-07-10 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thespian.livejournal.com
I was trying to get to Diesel, and left the house at 6 (it takes about 10m for me to hoof it up there) before I needed to head over to a friend's house for a regular Wednesday thing. But I got to Porter Square and the skies opened up, and I spent the next 15m waiting for the bus on someone's porch, at which time it was too late to do both.

Obviously, I should have timed this earlier, to get there at 6, when I would have been dry and had the mayor all to myself.

I for one would like the Mayor to come to the meetup next week at PJ Ryans's. More notice, and piles o' the peeps.

Date: 2008-07-11 12:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] on-reserve.livejournal.com
Tom - this will be my last comment on this post but as I am sitting here talking to my friend who had her ticket voided today and you know what?
T&P gave her a hard time!

After all of this brouhaha, the clerk at T&P tried telling her that the ticket was valid and that she "might have to have a hearing." The clerk argued with her for 10-15 minutes. Over a ticket that was erroneously issued in the first place.

Again, no beef with you but -- Jim Kotzuba seriously needs to get his act together. This is ridiculous.

Date: 2008-07-11 12:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellf.livejournal.com
Tom's account is gone. At least from where I sit - and at the moment, it's probably a prejudiced place - it seems that this argument over a parking ticket is behind his departure.

Please, let it go. Go call 311 if you have a beef.

Date: 2008-07-11 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] talonvaki.livejournal.com
people who start drinking at, say, 9 p.m. probably don’t look at the parking signs closely when they come in and wouldn’t know they had to move their cars at midnight unless the bartender prompted them

People who start drinking at 9pm and don't know they have to move their cars at midnight unless the bartender tells them to...probably should not be driving in the first place.

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