Bob Trane mailer
Aug. 26th, 2008 01:49 pmI received this in the mail from Bob Trane. Is Carl Sciortino really the recipient of "thousands of dollars from lobbyists, special interest groups and powerful politicians" ?
If so, it's curious that in my neighborhood the Trane yard signs, stickers and posters outnumber the Sciortino signs by a margin of roughly twenty to zero. You'd think Carl might want to spend some of those thousands on visibility though perhaps he's saving his money for the stickers.
Can anyone comment on this mailer? Does anyone have any opinions about the race itself?

from Sciortino's Campaign Manager, Kevin Lownds:
Carl has earned the support of the nurses, teachers, police, social workers, and environmental, gay rights, and women's rights groups. He is also quite willing to let the voters know where he stands on the issues important to the community. If you take a look at the campaign websites, www.electcarl.org and www.bobtrane.org, you'll see the difference."
If so, it's curious that in my neighborhood the Trane yard signs, stickers and posters outnumber the Sciortino signs by a margin of roughly twenty to zero. You'd think Carl might want to spend some of those thousands on visibility though perhaps he's saving his money for the stickers.
Can anyone comment on this mailer? Does anyone have any opinions about the race itself?

from Sciortino's Campaign Manager, Kevin Lownds:
Carl has earned the support of the nurses, teachers, police, social workers, and environmental, gay rights, and women's rights groups. He is also quite willing to let the voters know where he stands on the issues important to the community. If you take a look at the campaign websites, www.electcarl.org and www.bobtrane.org, you'll see the difference."
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Date: 2008-08-26 05:58 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-08-26 06:01 pm (UTC)Bob Trane supports casinos.
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Date: 2008-08-26 07:05 pm (UTC)I've sent an email to the Sciortino Campaign for comment. I'll post any response I receive.
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Date: 2008-08-26 06:04 pm (UTC)He's not implying that about Sciortino directly in the language though. He's just saying he won't be one of those politicians, although I'm not really sure just how much lobbying a local politico would receive around here (I'm assuming some but we're not talking K Street here).
I'm writing Sciortino in. I have yet to see any sort of difference between him and Trane, and I actually spoke in person to one of Sciortino's canvassers, who was exceptionally polite and sent me a handwritten postcard the next day.
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Date: 2008-08-26 06:17 pm (UTC)On the other hand, I gave money to Carl too, maybe he means me :)
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Date: 2008-08-26 06:51 pm (UTC)So, in the absence of any kind of summary of Trane's positions, I'm probably going to vote for Sciortino. But if anyone can point me at any kind of scorecard or report on just what the hell Trane stands for, I'd be very grateful.
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Date: 2008-08-26 07:12 pm (UTC)I haven't decided who to vote for yet, but if as Ron says the two do not really differ on the issues, I'll vote for Bob.
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Date: 2008-08-26 07:03 pm (UTC)Ron - have you been able to locate any campaign reports for Trane on line? Do such creatures exist for local races? If not, we may have to wait until the September deadline for filing.
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Date: 2008-08-26 07:31 pm (UTC)don't trust politicians with horny looks on their faces
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Date: 2008-08-26 08:39 pm (UTC)Here's an odd thought: given Vinnie Ciampa's attempt at a write-in campaign in 2004 after losing the primary, does anyone see the loser of the primary running again (as a write-in candidate) in the general election?
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Date: 2008-08-26 09:49 pm (UTC)There are two deadlines: First you get the signature papers certified by the cities and towns, then there's a later deadline to turn them in to the state. He got more than enough signatures certified by Medford and Somerville before the deadline, but then before he turned all of them in to the state, some of the were taken. By that point, the first deadline had passed, so he couldn't go back to Medford or Somerville to get more signatures certified. He did go to each of the voters who had signed initially on the missing sheets (Somerville & Medford had a record of who they were), and got notarized signatures from them saying they signed his nomination papers, and took that to court, but the court said sorry, we don't have the power to remedy this, the law just says you have to turn the actual original certified sheets into the state.
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Date: 2008-08-26 11:25 pm (UTC)Candidate who won't list out where they stand on issues doesn't get my support either way. I just need to make sure I get a sticker so that I am not left to spell my candidates name badly..
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Date: 2008-08-27 04:24 pm (UTC)So, it came down to this for me: I got a visit from the incumbent. I got information from and about the incumbent. I got a rather nasty mailer from the challenger, and no information about his positions or priorities. His campaign, it seems, is just a bit of revenge on behalf of the old school. I hope he gets trounced.
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Date: 2008-08-28 04:33 pm (UTC)http://www.wickedlocal.com/somerville/town_info/your_vote/x1514483642
which includes Trane showing his, um, views on the electoral process:
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Trane said the Ward Committee was not worth the trouble to which the slate went to get on the committee.
“How much did they spend?” Trane said. “Thousands of dollars on a mailing? Handing them out in front of polling places?”
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Combine this with Trane's "planning for the inevitable" as far as casino gambling coming to Massachusetts, and I've got serious concerns about Trane's views regarding the citizenry or hoi polloi, or however he views his detractors.
Who said "Pray for the dead and fight for the living"? I'm looking for a little bit of that right now.
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Date: 2008-08-28 12:01 am (UTC)Is Carl Sciortino really the recipient of "thousands of dollars from lobbyists, special interest
Date: 2008-08-28 03:17 am (UTC)This is from the Mass. OFPC http://www.efs.cpf.state.ma.us/SearchReportResults.aspx?cpfId=14185
7/30/2004 Freedom to Marry PAC (80726)
325 Huntington Ave., Unit 88 Boston, MA 02115 $500.00
6/2/2004 Gay Pennies for Politics (80729)
343 South Huntington Ave., #12 Jamaica Plain, MA 02130 $500.00
9/3/2004 Gay and Lesbian Victory Fund PAC (80590)
1705 DeSales St., NW Ste. 500 Washington, DC 20036 $300.00
10/15/2004 Massachusetts Federation of Teachers Pol (80227)
38 Chauncy St. Boston, MA 02111 $500.00
/15/2004 Speaker Finnerans House Victory Fund PAC (80504)
112 Water St. Boston, MA 02109 $400.00
10/19/2004 Bay State Gay & Lesbian Democrats PAC (80550)
PO Box 837 Pepperell, MA 01463 $500.0
12/27/2004 Boston Teacher's Union
180 Mount Vernon St. Boston, MA 02125 Secretary-Treasurer $500.00
/29/2005 Boston Carmen's Union, Local 589 PAC
295 Devonshire St. Boston, MA 02110 Recording Secretary $100.00
12/13/2005 Local 509 SEIU (80224)
400 Talcott Ave. Watertown, MA 02472 $100.00
12/12/2007 MA FEDERATION OF TEACHERS POLITICAL EDUCATION FUND (80227)
38 CHAUNCY ST BOSTON, MA 02111 $500.00
11/16/2007 MASSACHUSETTS NURSES PAC (80109)
340 TURNPIKE ST CANTON, MA 02021 $250.00
11/1/2007 MASSEQUALITY PAC (80736)
398 COLUMBUS AVE, 198 BOSTON, MA 02116 $500.00
2/7/2007
SEIU LOCAL 509 PAC (80224)
400 TALCOTT AVE, BLDG, 131 EAST WATERTOWN, MA 02472
$100.00
11/7/2007
SEIU LOCAL 509 PAC (80224)
400 TALCOTT AVE, BLDG, 131 EAST WATERTOWN, MA 02472
$100.00
Re: Is Carl Sciortino really the recipient of "thousands of dollars from lobbyists, special interest
Date: 2008-08-28 03:28 am (UTC)$1,450 in most recent year, ... is IS the gays, zomg!
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Date: 2008-08-30 01:30 pm (UTC)9/15/2004 Speaker Finnerans House Victory Fund PAC (80504)
112 Water St. Boston, MA 02109 $400.00
Priot to last week I had never heard of this PAC and a search of the Boston Globe and the Boston Herald for "Speaker Finnerans House Victory Fund" and several variations of the name yield no results. The PAC has been in existence since 1993 and there is no mention of it in the major Boston newspapers. Why not?
The FFF donated $500 to Vinny Ciampa that year and this should be no surprise as BOTH Finneran and his Lieutenant Ciampa were extremely and openly anti-gay marriage.
What the donation to Sciortino, one of the four openly gay legislators, reveals is that Finneran's Democratic Party loyalty trumps his own moral convictions, if he even had any. I wonder how many Finneran supporters would have donated to his PAC if they knew it was going to a gay candidate.
And it also tells us a little about Sciortino's character. On his first day as the nominee for State Representative, he accepts a donation from the most powerful and most anti-gay marriage member of the House of Representatives, who at the time was under a federal investigation for corruption and lying. I also wonder how many Sciortino supporters would have approved of him accepting this money.
Thirteen days after the donation to Sciortino, Finneran resigns in disgrace on 9/28/04. Several Democrats return the money from Finneran but Sciortino never returns the money even after Finneran is convicted of a felony in a plea bargain years later.
The fund does not end with the departure of Finneran. It is a "Perpetual PAC," a real PP.
Speaker DiMasi takes over the fund after Finneran's departure and the only things that change are the name of the fund and the address.
http://www.efs.cpf.state.ma.us/SearchReportResults.aspx?cpfId=80504
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Speaker DiMasi's Committee for a Democratic House PAC
Category: PAC
Organization Date: 9/15/1993
Committee Name: Speaker DiMasi's Committee for a Democratic House PAC
Treasurer: William G. Ferullo
Committee Address: 101 Tremont Street Boston
In 2006, Sciortino donates $75 TO the new and improved DiMasi PAC.
6/20/2006 Speaker DiMasi's Committee for a Democratic House PAC
11 Beacon St. #325 Boston, MA 02108 Campaign Contribution $75.00
And how can we forget this donation to Sciortino FROM:
10/24/2004 Buonomo, John
31 Arapahce Rd. Newton, MA 02465 Registrar of Probate
Commonwealth of Massachusetts $200.00
Sciortino returned the favor with a donation TO:
12/10/2007 Buonomo Committee
31 Arapaho Rd Newton, MA 02465 Donation $75.00
And finally we have the donations to Sciortino from one of the alleged Tufts embezzelers. This money should be returned to her to help with her high legal expenses!
7/29/2004 Nealley, Jodie
32 Howard St. Waltham, MA 02451 Administration
Tufts University $50.00
10/19/2004 Nealley, Jodie
32 Howard St. Waltham, MA 02451 Administration
Tufts University $50.00
Scorecard through 12/31/2007:
Donations to Sciortino from convicted felons - $400
Donations to Sciortino from alleged felons - $300
So here we are in '08 with the Speaker of the House under investigation, a sticker campaign in the works and thousands of dollars in PAC money going back and forth from MOST campaign accounts. It's deja vu all over again.
Speaking of high legal expenses, Sciortino's legal expenses for his failed court cases to get his name on the ballot this year are estimated to be over $40,000 and with the Office of Campaign and Political Finance reporting period ending yesterday 8/29/08 and the reports due out no later than 9/8/2008, we shall soon see where his money came from and went this year.
Some people might call this a campaign issue!
Where DO you people live? This is SOMERVILLE!
Date: 2008-09-06 07:29 pm (UTC)The way politics and money move in Somerville is much more like Bob's brother's business interests with Comcast, RCN, Verizon, and other telecommunications firms. Why they don't replace phone poles when they've been updated; why they don't pay taxes on the access we provide them; why they pay the absolute minimum to SCAT and nothing to the schools for media education. That is Paul's business specifically.
But the way real money moves is how the city paid $500,000 for 100 emergency phones for the cops and firemen. On a no bid contract. With Paul's firms clearly advantaged. And with Bob's very eager support on the Board of aldermen.
The most notable result of that transaction - besides phones that now, less than two years later, don't work at a price nearly 20 times the most expensive cell you could buy - is that the Board of Aldermen changed their ethics ordinance. Before, any family member with $100,000 or more in city business had to file. Now, after Paul's very successful sale, the limit is $1,000,000. I guess he's got more phones to sell. And those may be to the state, particularly if Bob gets in.
Now that does put campaign contributions of $300 or $400 into some perspective. Stop looking at the little stuff when the big stuff is jumping out in neon.
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Date: 2008-09-07 04:53 pm (UTC)Just got another mailer from Trane.
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