[identity profile] eatabananaortwo.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] davis_square

Hello everyone

My friend had her bike stolen last night from her front porch, and she doesn't know what to do
She lives on College Ave and she thought it was a safe street...
The poor thing is kinda frantic, and I thought I'd help her out by posting this here.
This is what her bike looks like. It's a brand new purple Schwinn ranger. She already had a bike and a car stolen before, and she's getting kinda bitter about this area... :(

What should she do at this point???
Thanks

Date: 2008-09-15 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chenoameg.livejournal.com
I assume she has called the police to report it?

Date: 2008-09-15 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ad-lib.livejournal.com
call the police. see if she has the serial number so if they find it they can track it down.

Date: 2008-09-15 04:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] inahandbasket
Buy a U-lock and use it?

Date: 2008-09-15 04:56 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ifotismeni
dare i ask what kind of lock she used? not to implicate, but rather for research -- i'm curious if i should get a NYC fuggedaboudit lock instead of a u-lock or something.

Date: 2008-09-15 05:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ifotismeni
aww geez :( i'm not going to chastise anybody. that's such a shame, honest.

Date: 2008-09-15 05:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] richips.livejournal.com
Yeah, if she has a hallway or basement or something- what a lot of my friends do is keep their bikes inside. It's the safest way. So many bike thefts recently, it's awful.

Date: 2008-09-15 05:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thetathx1138.livejournal.com
Well, bikes are light, and they can sell for a lot of money. Makes them ideal for thefts of opportunity.

Date: 2008-09-15 05:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] closetalker11.livejournal.com
There's typically a spike in property crimes like theft around the beginning of school season, I've found.

Date: 2008-09-15 06:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] richips.livejournal.com
another reason to make college more affordable - so students don't have to resort to stealing shite!

Date: 2008-09-15 07:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thetathx1138.livejournal.com
It's not students, it's opportunistic criminals. Students are easy, easy pickins, especially the naive ones.

Date: 2008-09-15 07:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] closetalker11.livejournal.com
I don't know that it's students stealing stuff so much as people thinking they might take advantage of kids moving in without urban experience.

Date: 2008-09-15 05:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jenskot.livejournal.com
Even if she does have a U-lock, I wouldn't trust anything overnight - my nieghbor had someone smash his porch railing to steal his bike. My roommate and I have resigned ourselves to keeping the bikes in our living room... :(

Date: 2008-09-15 05:46 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] perspicuity.livejournal.com
i suppose i should also point out that the old style U locks, or any lock for that matter with a circular key, can be picked in seconds by just about anyone from a 6-8 yo on up to a 99 yo, sober, drunk, stoned, or cracked out. they are not safe to use except as a secondary system designed to annoy, not deter.

they're so bad in fact, that kryptonite offered to swap out all their old locks for a new mechanism. i think the offer is probably still sound.

depending on the lock she was using as well, that should be reported. did the lock get stolen too?

sounds like a lot of bikes are being stolen down there. hell, there are little old ladies that steal PLANTS from your front yard too, even going so far as to bring a wagon, and dig them up.

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Date: 2008-09-15 07:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thetathx1138.livejournal.com
Her roommate's bike is probably junky, I'll bet.

Date: 2008-09-16 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imsoclever.livejournal.com
i thought this story looked familiar

it's not thaaat junky...

ps. i am the owner of the stolen helmet / unlocked bike, not the thief.

Date: 2008-09-15 10:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suzybuzz.livejournal.com
that sucks for your friend. i got my seat and wheel stolen within the past week after years of nothing like that ever happening. i leave my bike inside now, b/c i don't want to keep replacing parts. really sorry this happened.

Date: 2008-09-15 11:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maelithil.livejournal.com
When they broke into our porch they stole two old crappy mountain bikes that belonged to my boyfriend and his brother. They left my brand new hybrid alone.

It's probably dependent on ease of resale.

Date: 2008-09-15 05:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chaiya.livejournal.com
Too late for some of the registration measures that the police and schools of the area encourage, but if she gets a new one, she should keep records of the registration number, sale date & price (in case she can get tenant's or owner's insurance or something to cover it), and locations she's registered it (near work and home).

Sorry to hear it ... :(

Date: 2008-09-15 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spud.livejournal.com
Renter's insurance typically covers this sort of thing, so point your friend towards that definitely. It also covers you when your downstairs neighbors do something really stupid and burn the house down, destroying everything you own. (Yep... it DOES happen)

Renters Insurance runs between $100 and $300 a year. Well worth it.

suggestions on renters insurance

Date: 2008-09-16 01:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slippaz.livejournal.com
I looked around on the internet and it seems that they don't do quotes online for MA. Do you have any suggestion on what company I should contact?
Thanks!

Re: suggestions on renters insurance

Date: 2008-09-16 01:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] koloratur.livejournal.com
I highly recommend Wedgwood-Crane, and Connolly.

http://www.wccins.com/home.asp

Date: 2008-09-15 05:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] srakkt.livejournal.com
So the first thing is to cal the police and report the theft. In the report include the serial number of the bicycle.

The next thing to do is to call her insurance company and file a renters' insurance claim, and give them the police report number.

Date: 2008-09-15 06:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] purpless77.livejournal.com
What is it with people thinking they live on a safe street so they can be careless. Look at Somerville as whole city and not just from street to street. It is a city and there is crime. I'm shocked that after having a car stolen and another bike stolen that she would even chance leaving this one out. Where is the common sense nowadays.

It's a nice bike and I agree with previous posts call the police to report it. A lot of the time stolen bikes get ridden around for a bit then left places. She could also try walking the area and the bike trail to see if someone left it around. Then tell her to please learn this time.

Date: 2008-09-15 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] exsplusohs.livejournal.com
Yeah, I'm sure she'll get right on chastising her friend for a faceless internet person.

I do have common sense

Date: 2008-09-16 08:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emilyroxsox.livejournal.com
When I bought the bike I by no means thought that it didn't have the chance of being stolen, thats why I locked it with a U lock and a chain lock. I also locked it in a place that you cannot see it from the street. It must be nice to feel so superior over people you don't even know, huh? My car was stolen in Cambridge, next to many many other cars, it was locked and everything! Crazy huh? But it certainly must have been my fault for not learning my lesson of...umm...leaving it on the street? The last bike was carelessness on my part, but I had a U-lock that time too, however I locked it to a pole on the street (and that wasn't here, that was in Cambridge, near MIT). I guess if I get raped because I was walking down the street that will probably be my fault too?

Report it to the police.

Date: 2008-09-15 07:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nvidia99999.livejournal.com
Also:
1. Keep an eye on Craiglist (ebay too, perhaps) for people who might try to sell the bike
2. Walk around Tufts and Harvard looking for it. The color is quite noticeable.

Date: 2008-09-15 07:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tfarrell.livejournal.com
"Safe" and "no thefts" are different things. She may be relatively unlikely to be harmed in that area, but that doesn't mean stuff won't be stolen.

It's sad but true that a certain percentage of people tend to steal things. This is true anywhere. When you live in a place where people are densely populated, which is to say, any city, you have more people in any area, which means more thieves. Leaving anything outdoors in full view in Somerville is just a way of tempting thieves. That doesn't mean Somerville is a bad place, it's just the reality of living in any semi-urban area.

You can reduce the likelihood of an outside bike being stolen in several ways:
1) Use an excellent quality U lock.
2) Lock the bike to something that isn't easily removed or breakable. Locking it to a porch post isn't good, that can be sawed or broken. You may not have something suitable.
3) When putting the lock on the bike, ensure that it passes around the rear wheel and part of the frame and whatever it's being locked to.
4) Get a bike with a quick-release front wheel, and maybe a quick release seat, and take it (them) off of the bike and take it (them) with you.
5) Don't leave any accessories, such as lights or water bottles, on the bike.
6) Get a cheap-looking bike.
7) Lock up the bike someplace where it can't be seen from the street, and remove anything from your porch that isn't part of the building. Thieves are often opportunist: if they see something they want to steal, they will walk onto your porch to do so, but if they don't see anything, they're unlikely to walk onto your porch to look for stuff to steal.

Speaking as a formerly avid biker, I also want to suggest that keeping the bike indoors is much better for the bike. Leaving a bike outdoors often, even if it's under a roof, leads to much more and faster rust. If you don't want to deal with carrying a full size bicycle into your home or finding space for it, I certainly don't blame you, but you might want to consider a folding bike that you can fold up and carry in and stash in a closet when you aren't using it.


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Date: 2008-09-16 12:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] makoshark.livejournal.com
You can always leave your bike out for a night or so when you guests over.
From: [identity profile] emilyroxsox.livejournal.com
So I'm the one with the stolen bike. I really appreciate that Sun felt the need to put this out there but I don't think she meant to put it out so that everyone could assume how dumb I am for leaving my bike out. Agreed, but we don't have room in my apartment, I live in a tiny room that isn't even really supposed to be a bedroom so I can save money while I get ready for nursing school. I come from a much more urban area where I grew up worrying about getting shot rather than having my bike stolen, we had bikes and car windows stolen, and I was home during an attempted break-in when I was 16 of which I did call the police; hence me not reporting to the police that my bike of which target sells about 5000 a year was stolen.

I think its fine to report that to the police, but I am choosing not to because there is no proof. I had my car stolen two years ago by MIT (and yes it was locked and it was a crappy 1998 neon) and this stuff happens. I don't think somerville is unsafe just because my bike was stolen. I just think it sucks that I got it stolen. I had a u-lock and cable lock on it for all you people that think i'm dumb. The person who left his bike unlocked had a trek, so it wasn't a lame bike that they chose not to take. I'm not going to pay 300 dollars for renters insurance when the bike was 150 bucks. So anywhooo thanks for the help, (I wasn't frantic by the way just mad, that was Sun's poetic license). I've been looking at craigslist and I went to some of the local bike shops too.. So there, I've defended myself, don't just assume people are stupid. I'm not stupid just jaded (but I will vote come November 2nd! ;) )
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From: [identity profile] emilyroxsox.livejournal.com
hehe...I do... but I think it's human nature to assume that you know better than everybody else. I love you for doing this and being so concerned, Sun! and it's my nature to be overly defensive ;) You're the best.
From: [identity profile] nvidia99999.livejournal.com
I'm more defensive than all of you put together! :)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
You don't need to have "proof" of anything to report a crime to the police. If you used to have a bike and now you don't, a crime happened and they need to know about it. The bike didn't just blow away in the wind, someone took it. Please report it.

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