[identity profile] dahdahdahdancer.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] davis_square
I'm addicted to the Sarah Connor Chronicles (Monday at 8:00) on FOX 25. Mysteriously, the FOX signal vanished a few days ago (I get snow, just snow), although other stations come through as always. I still use rabbit ears (hey, it's cheaper than cable or satellite and I'm on a budget). Time is running out - the SC Chronicles are on tomorrow night! Has anyone else lost the FOX 25 signal?

Date: 2008-12-14 03:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkgrrl658.livejournal.com
i have one of those teeny tv/vcr combos in my bedroom that i keep on for my dogs when i'm gone and also to help me sleep at night and i just noticed this last night too! at odd hours there aren't many options and now i'm one less :(

i live in brighton also, fyi.

Date: 2008-12-14 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zmgmeister.livejournal.com
I thought dogs couldn't watch TV. Something about the illusion that lets us see a moving picture doesn't work for dogs, who just see a flickering screen.

Date: 2008-12-14 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkgrrl658.livejournal.com
not for the picture, for the sound.

creates a dull white noise ish situation where they then aren't hearing every other little thing going on in our outside the apt.

Date: 2008-12-14 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zmgmeister.livejournal.com
Cats, on the other hand. I've seen videos for cats advertised in the Boston Globe Magazine. Theyre mostly about mice, birds, or balls of yarn. But I understand they adore the Mary Tyler Moore show.

Date: 2008-12-14 05:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkgrrl658.livejournal.com
hee!

i used to live with three cats, and yeah, totally. or if something ball or bug like appears - i.e., we had a projector and we were watching one of those planet earth things, and there was a sweeping view of space, and the moon, which was a tiny white dot. hilarity ensued.

Date: 2008-12-14 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danger-chick.livejournal.com
Mine could not have been interested less. They didn't perk up when they heard the birds chirping. I thought it was pretty zen myself and would watch it on occasion. It's called Video Cat Nip.

Date: 2008-12-14 04:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] m00n.livejournal.com
That *can't* be true. By that same token a dog wouldn't be able to see by a fluorescent light bulb, but I suspect they can.

Also, they would have to have vision with even greater precision than humans which they definitely do not.

Date: 2008-12-14 05:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zmgmeister.livejournal.com
I'm sure they can see a fluorescent light bulb, but it might be more flickery to them ( at least the conventional type; the little "energy saver" ones flicker at a much higher frequency ).

The illusion in question is called "persistence of vision", where human eyes don't register things that happen in less than 1/30th of a second. This figure may be different for other species, and dogs might very well see the picture being "painted" on the CRT. Just like that line you see if you try to take a picture of a TV.

However, I don't know how dogs feel about LCD or plasma.

Date: 2008-12-14 05:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] m00n.livejournal.com
In order for a dog not to see a television, though, the persistence "timing" would have to be *dramatically* different from that of humans. Consider that even at half the normal refresh rate, a television will still appear to produce a picture, it will just be very irritating to look at.

Also, CFL bulbs still flicker at the usual 60 Hz since they are powered by the same mains power as other fluorescent bulbs, but their phosphorescent coating allows them to maintain some glow during the low part of the cycle thereby making the flicker a little less apparent.

Date: 2008-12-14 05:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zmgmeister.livejournal.com
Well of course they can see it, but it probably looks like a whole lot of nonsense to them. Kind of like the "Picasso porn" from back in the days of analog scrambling.

I believe the CFL bulbs have electronics that creates a higher frequency ( probably required b/c the small tube ). On the box there is usually a disclaimer like "this product may interfere with radios, etc"

Date: 2008-12-14 05:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkgrrl658.livejournal.com
also, for the record if my younger dog sees another dog on tv, or an unfamiliar animal, she totally barks at it under her breath. so they can see it, but they generally could care less.

Date: 2008-12-14 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zmgmeister.livejournal.com
Any chance this is LCD or plasma? Those screens work differently, and I haven't heard anything on the "why don't dogs watch tv question" since before they came out.

Date: 2008-12-14 06:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkgrrl658.livejournal.com
yes, actually. but the small one mentioned earlier that i was watching the dog show on the other weekend is not. but maybe a dog barked that time or something, can't recall.

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