MBTA bag inspections at Davis Station
Jan. 2nd, 2009 02:29 pmOn my way down to the train at Davis Station around 8:30am this morning, I was about to pass through the gate when a transit officer asked me to submit to a bag inspection. There was a group of about 4 or 5 officers wearing yellow and black jackets standing next to a small folding table with a machine on top.
I was annoyed because my train had just come up to the platform, so I was afraid I’d miss it. So, I obediently went over to the table, and asked if I had the right to refuse the inspection. Yes, I could refuse, they told me, but then I’d have to leave the station. One officer at the table asked rhetorically why anyone would want to refuse. I complied because I had nothing to hide and I wanted to get it over with so I could catch my train.
The inspection consisted of rubbing a small piece of fabric or cotton around the exterior of my backpack. Then, the fabric was put into the machine. The officer performing this task explained that he was testing for explosives. No personally identifying information was requested from me. The test was negative, so I could get on my way. It’s notable that this test used a computer instead of a bomb sniffing dog, I wonder which is more effective and what the cost savings are.
The whole inspection took about 30 seconds and I was actually able to catch my train to Porter Station where no inspections were taking place. When I returned to Davis Station about an hour later, around 9:30am, the officers were gone.
The inspection left me feeling annoyed, inconvenienced, and surprised. I also felt vulnerable because I didn’t know my rights. I think the MBTA should do a better job of publicizing its inspection program so people can mentally prepare for it. The MBTA Police website contains a link to information on its bag inspection program near the bottom, but this information dates back to 2006 and made no mention of activities going on this month.
I wonder about the rates of false positives and false negatives of the explosives test. How effective is it at deterring or catching people who carry bombs? And why only inspect the exterior of the bag when there could be dangerous items inside?
Have you or someone you know been inspected? What was the experience like?
Note: I'm cross-posting this from the Somerville Voices blog.
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Date: 2009-01-02 09:07 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2009-01-02 10:52 pm (UTC)I have a strong suspicion that either they have no procedure for what to do when you actually test positive, or the procedure at that point becomes so invasive that even TSA officials will do anything to avoid going down that route.
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Date: 2009-01-02 07:47 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-01-02 07:49 pm (UTC)...30 seconds is an inconvenience? i don't know how effective these tests are, but that seems like chump change if the test actually works and keeps people safe. also, 30 seconds is way better than the hour you spend in line at the airport being thoroughly checked. just think of it this way - they could have spent 5 minutes rifling through your bag instead.
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Date: 2009-01-02 08:09 pm (UTC)In theory they might catch somebody who was unaware that they were carrying something harmful, but that scenario isn't all that likely and it's unlikely that the checkers would happen to be at the right station at the right time. I have also heard the argument that this program acts as a deterrent, but if you're 99.5% likely not to get stopped and you can leave without getting checked, it's unlikely to deter anyone.
I don't think this kind of testing is actually keeping anybody safe, so I think "inconvenience" is a fair characterization.
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Date: 2009-01-02 09:05 pm (UTC)Being dead is an even bigger inconvenience, IMO.
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Date: 2009-02-26 10:33 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2009-01-02 07:57 pm (UTC)The effectiveness of this program vs. using the same MBTA police officers to address actual known problems, such as violent crime on the Orange Line, is left as an exercise for the reader.
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Date: 2009-01-02 09:13 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-01-02 10:57 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-01-02 08:00 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-01-02 08:24 pm (UTC)Where do we draw the line on the rights we are willing to give up in the name of a sense of security. I say "sense of security" here, because anyone who did have malevolent intent could easily just leave and go to a different T station to continue their plans. I believe that Benjamin Franklin's quote was along the lines of, "They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security."
Simply my $.02 on the issue.
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Date: 2009-01-02 09:11 pm (UTC)Increasing habituation to and acceptance of random searches absolutely makes it easier for the police to catch various types of criminals, although not necessarily the ones they claim to be looking for in justifying the searches. However, I, and I hope you, find the price in lost liberty unacceptable. I always hope that the police will leave me alone, but if and when they don't, I will walk (or take the bus) to Porter Square, and write a letter of complaint to the T management and the newspapers. I hope you will consider doing the same when they "ask" to search your bag.
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Date: 2009-01-02 09:34 pm (UTC)I don't think voluntary searches can be effective at catching any type of contraband.
I do agree that these inspections condition the public to accept increasingly frequent random searches AND that this is an unacceptable loss of liberty.
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Date: 2009-01-02 09:59 pm (UTC)If no one wants more security then we need to go to the system that I have long advocated for -- everyone packs heat. You get on a bus - you bring a rifle. A plane; a bazooka. Without random searches that's about the only way to stop the terrorists from committing another 911 or Madrid.
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Date: 2009-01-02 10:07 pm (UTC)Re: No searches
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Date: 2009-01-02 10:17 pm (UTC)Thankfully, it was not.
I'm always slightly aware of Will I be taking a plane in the next few days? Have I been around explosives? Do I currently smell like gun powder? (which I also periodically, legally, play with)
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Date: 2009-01-02 10:17 pm (UTC)Honestly, I would feel much safer if they had the dogs trained to sniff for explosives and drugs do the check. The dog whiffs your bag, you go on your way or and the dog will actually catch contraband, unlike the stupid machines they have.
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Date: 2009-01-02 10:36 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2009-01-02 11:09 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-01-03 12:45 am (UTC)It sounds like they are following the law to a T
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Date: 2009-01-02 11:30 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-01-02 11:35 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2009-01-03 02:06 am (UTC)Re: So, can one refuse and NOT leave the station?
Date: 2009-01-03 02:24 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-01-03 03:21 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-01-03 03:03 pm (UTC)Well, remember that they have to make up
Date: 2009-01-03 10:50 pm (UTC)MBTA searches are violations of rights, wasteful and harmful
Date: 2009-01-03 04:20 pm (UTC)As many have mentioned, these searches are an ineffective waste of resources.
I have a strong objection to such "random" searches not based on probable cause.
I would like repeat Barry's recommendation of the ACLUM Know Your Rights - Stops and Searches on the MBTA pamphlet (http://www.aclum.org/pdf/KnowYourRightsMBTA.pdf) (PDF).
According to the pamphlet:
To me, the threat of arrest for "trespassing" if I assert my right to not be searched as a condition of riding the T is highly offensive and sounds starkly unconstitutional.
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Date: 2009-01-03 10:35 pm (UTC)I agree with the ACLU's assertion that all should be aware of their constitutional rights in the event they are violated, but the searches per se do not violate the your constitutional rights.
This is no different than the airport, the court house, or city hall. If you wish to gain entrance, you must submit to a search for the safety of all.
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Date: 2009-01-04 01:46 am (UTC)