Arts at the Armory is seeking changes to its existing Special Permit to allow daytime use of the building for its programs and special events in the performance hall and the cafe - including concurrent events. The meeting will be held on Wednesday, March 4 at 6 PM in the Aldermanic Chambers, 2nd Floor of Somerville City Hall located at 93 Highland Avenue.
If the Zoning Board of Appeals grants our request, it would allow us to host matinee performances for theater, dance and music as well as offer open studios, lectures, conferences and other events of community interest in the performance hall and cafe.
Your support is needed at this meeting! If you cannot attend, please send an e-mail of support to the Zoning Board of Appeals in care of Madeleine Masters at mmasters@somervillema.gov.
Questions?
Contact Debra McLaughlin or Susan Fiedler at 617.718.2191 or email us at info@artsatthearmory.org
If the Zoning Board of Appeals grants our request, it would allow us to host matinee performances for theater, dance and music as well as offer open studios, lectures, conferences and other events of community interest in the performance hall and cafe.
Your support is needed at this meeting! If you cannot attend, please send an e-mail of support to the Zoning Board of Appeals in care of Madeleine Masters at mmasters@somervillema.gov.
Questions?
Contact Debra McLaughlin or Susan Fiedler at 617.718.2191 or email us at info@artsatthearmory.org
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Date: 2009-03-03 04:41 am (UTC)The Special Permit change will also allow the Armory to fully participate in Somerville Open Studios as an exhibition hall for local artists.
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Date: 2009-03-03 04:51 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2009-03-03 12:08 pm (UTC)It's not the request itself, it's the attitude that people oppose...
Date: 2009-03-03 12:38 pm (UTC)I, personally, support most of the things they want to do. But having now personally seen the attitude they gave the neighbors, I can easily see why they are making enemies of people who they'd be far better off having on their side.
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Date: 2009-03-03 12:39 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-03-03 12:40 pm (UTC)Re: It's not the request itself, it's the attitude that people oppose...
Date: 2009-03-03 12:40 pm (UTC)Understandable.
Date: 2009-03-03 02:28 pm (UTC)Re: It's not the request itself, it's the attitude that people oppose...
Date: 2009-03-03 02:37 pm (UTC)It's true that someone described the process that way at the meeting last night. But as someone who has also been involved in this process since the start and a neighbor of the Armory, I don't see it that way. There have been a handful of folks (some in the neighborhood, some not) who have been against the project from the start and have used any means necessary to obstruct the progress. While there are legitimate issues that need watchful attention (parking, noise, etc.) these folks feel the Armory has a hidden agenda to evolve into a nightclub, thus they operate from that point of view at every step of the way.
As I see it, the "blowing off" as you described it, is a matter of Arts at the Armory attempting to be flexible in the evolving face of reality setting in for the building's viability. As you saw at the meeting last night, there are some abutters who are very concerned but offered suggestions of how to slowly integrate the daytime use of the performance hall (for Actors Shakespeare Project matinees, Somerville Open Studios etc.).
Incidentally, the Armory is gorgeous inside! They've done a tremendous job renovating the place. The performance hall is a real jewel and will be a tremendous asset to the community once the dust settles....
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Date: 2009-03-03 02:53 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-03-03 02:59 pm (UTC)A lot of soundproofing work has gone on, with the intent that no noise whatsoever should escape the building into the surrounding neighborhood.
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Date: 2009-03-03 03:24 pm (UTC)This isn't to say I'm opposed to daytime performances there - it seems like a fine idea - but it's hard to accept as an argument when it's a situation the ASP stepped into knowingly. And it speaks to an apparent assumption that with enough pressure, the conditions don't mean anything. Which makes most of the other "reassurances" of the conditions ring a little hollow...
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Date: 2009-03-03 03:59 pm (UTC)I'm also confused by things being scheduled without the permit and agree with the commenter above that that in itself is not an argument. But I'm also unclear on how being open for matinees makes it more like a nightclub. However, having been to meetings for various variances, I know how neighbors can get, and frankly, a lot of the time, I feel like the Powers That Be pretty much ignore us, so I'd imagine those neighbors might feel similarly.
(OTOH, my last experience involved something that *nobody* at the meeting except the developer was in favor of, but the Alderman presumably went and voted for it anyway since it's happening.)
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Date: 2009-03-03 04:19 pm (UTC)I Hope it all works out
Date: 2009-03-03 06:02 pm (UTC)Of course the alternative could of been knocking it down and turning it into a huge CONDO complex!
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Date: 2009-03-03 10:09 pm (UTC)Re: I Hope it all works out
Date: 2009-03-03 10:11 pm (UTC)I live as close to the Somerville Theatre as many of these neighbors do to the Armory, and there's no way I can tell which days the theatre is having matinee shows.
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Date: 2009-03-03 10:12 pm (UTC)Was this a misrepresentation on the ZB's part, or a misunderstanding on the Armory management's part, or did the Armory management misrepresent the situation to the ASP in hope of creating an emergency?
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Date: 2009-03-03 10:14 pm (UTC)At best, it's horribly shoddy mismanagement. Unless there was some misrepresentation by the Zoning Board, the Arts at the Armory people need to fix their own mistakes without roping random Somervillians into manufactured "emergencies".
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Date: 2009-03-03 10:53 pm (UTC)Several people have asked this, and you haven't responded.
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Date: 2009-03-04 12:08 am (UTC)My experience at the time with that other project was that the bureaucrats involved had basically made up their minds in advance; one of them even told me outright, before public comment began, what the decision was going to be and what their criteria were, and it had nothing to do with anything either the builder or the neighbors cared about. (Specifically, I was told that if it had a brick facade it would be approved, and if not it would not, and that the board did not care about the size or parking concerns likely to be raised by the neighbors.) So, I have no trust of the zoning boards in this town to listen to anything anyone says in public comment.
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Date: 2009-03-04 12:15 am (UTC)Re: It's not the request itself, it's the attitude that people oppose...
Date: 2009-03-04 12:20 am (UTC)I was completely supportive of the whole project, and used to live right behind the place, but after hearing the response that was given to the few people who had some concerns about the changes to the agreement, and seeing these generally supportive people walk out feeling attacked by the Armory folks, I have to say I'm wondering if I should be concerned, too, about how community minded the community center really is...
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Date: 2009-03-04 01:00 am (UTC)What was striking to me was that the neighbors had some very legitimate concerns, namely the size of the building, its appearance not fitting in with the character of the neighborhood (it was going to look like a big white borg cube in the middle of a neighborhood of clapboard victorians), the submitted plans having some major problems which ensured that the completed building would not be what was being approved (there were staircases that went nowhere, for example), and parking (the neighborhood already had a real problem and they were proposing a building that would make it much worse). But, all the bureaucrats cared about was brick, brick, brick. If they got their brick, the builder would get his permit. (Fortunately, I don't think he ever figured this out.) But NOBODY wanted brick but the bureaucrats. The builder didn't want to use it, and the neighbors didn't want another brick monstrosity. It was just a complete disconnect between what the neighbors wanted, and what the city cared about.
I will admit, a few of the neighbors were being irrational. They complained so bitterly about anything the builder proposed that he finally asked them what on earth they would in fact not object to him putting on the land, and they didn't actually have an answer. I understand that city employees see people like that every day and consequently learn to take some neighbor objections with a grain of salt. However, many of us, myself included, were prepared to give our blessing to a smaller, more decorous version of the project with more realistic parking space, and said so, but the city employees didn't seem to care what we had to say.
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Date: 2009-03-04 02:23 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-03-04 02:30 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-03-04 02:38 am (UTC)The only other recent building controversy I know about in this area is (not on Highland) the big condo on the community path at Willow where the developer built the roofline much higher than was allowed. (Anyone here know the end of that story? What kind of mitigation was worked out?)
At the time the Armory change-of-use conditions were being negotiated in the neighborhood, the negotiation of nearby MaxPak/KSS with its neighbors was also in full swing.
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Date: 2009-03-04 02:53 am (UTC)I believe the building now contains a real estate office and a preschool.
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Date: 2009-03-04 03:01 am (UTC)Re: It's not the request itself, it's the attitude that people oppose...
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Date: 2009-03-04 01:09 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-03-04 02:56 pm (UTC)(Again, I don't have an issue with matinee performances - I actually am very surprised that that ended up as one of the conditions to begin with, as daytime hours seem critical to the intended function. I have an issue with what come across as misrepresentation and manufactured emergencies, given the conditions that were agreed to.)
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Date: 2009-03-04 02:58 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-03-04 03:14 pm (UTC)And you're right, I'd hope, that the ZBA would hear the opposition to night-time hour extensions and respect that. But I'd prefer that the developer actually respected the agreement reached and never went so far as to create that fight. (In other words, I'd prefer a good neighbor relationship to a poor one. And so far, it's on the fence.)
So, while I do support matinee hours in principle, I'm having a hard time feeling that I can actually support their request for a change to the conditions, because I'm fairly sure it's the first (and most reasonable) of many requests.
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Date: 2009-03-04 03:17 pm (UTC)If the ZBA decided to approve matinees only provisionally, with a review six months down the line, I'd be fine with that. (I'm speaking only for myself here; I have no idea how the Armory folks feel.)
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Date: 2009-03-05 04:00 am (UTC)The space, by the way, is incredible.
Let me say I am not an abutter. And also, I am 1000% behind having the Armory thrive. I can not wait to attend shows (and hopefully, matinees!) I felt that Debra was a tremendous resource and is obviously working very hard to build trust.
However.
I could wait six months after the official opening before i got to start attending those matinees.
I was REALLY struck by the attitude toward the one main concern the abutters brought up, that of parking and traffic issues. It seemed to me that the original conditions were fair: wait six months after the official opening before seeking an expansion of hours. Yes, these conditions were agreed to years ago, when there was less trust. That's what compromise is about.
That this was a pretty fair compromise, all things considered, seemed to have been overlooked by those seeking zoning variance.
I didn't get the sense that the neighbors were any longer concerned it would be turned into a nightclub. The issue is of trust. Debra probably feels, rightly, that she has spent a lot of time being transparent, working with the community, and building trust. But it seemed to me that, to her, this has been going on for so long that the neighbors just have to go with good faith. But to the neighbors, the Armory is just getting going!
Frankly, I would have felt really affronted and dismayed at this turn of events, if I was an abutter. Heck, I felt it anyway, and I wasn't.
All I kept thinking, was "Debra has tenants that clearly need the matinees for revenue. What the heck happened that it was not made abundantly clear to them that there was a 6-month trial from the official occupancy date before the Armory would push like mad to get the hours changed?"
I would have never thought of the term "elitist" but I am very sad to say that is an appropriate description. A very subtle sort of elitism, one that implies that the neighbors are being fearful and selfish, and not caring about the Armory tenants. When it really seemed to me that they felt betrayed.
And I would have, too. It left me with a bad taste in my mouth.
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Date: 2009-03-05 04:07 am (UTC)Also, Somerville Open Studios was and is looking forward to using the Armory as a group-show exhibition space.
When the original agreement was reached, the Armory expected the main tenant to instead be a dance company that would have had only evening shows. Instead they got Actors' Shakespeare Project.
well, they got the daytime hours approved
Date: 2009-03-05 07:01 am (UTC)This opens up the space for events for kids, which makes me so happy - this is the best think I've seen happen in Somerville since I moved here 17 years ago. I am only sorry that it has taken them 4 1/2 years to get through everything to finally open. Taking this long must have cost them a bundle. We are so fortunate to have this amazing new space.
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Date: 2009-03-05 01:00 pm (UTC)Re: well, they got the daytime hours approved
Date: 2009-03-05 09:05 pm (UTC)So now school groups can go to things there, and the Shakespeare matinees should be able to perform. There was an odd point saying that changes take 21 days to implement, after the matinees, but I think the intent should cover them.
The concurrent events got dropped, due to getting bogged down by what the total capacity would be allowed to be.
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Date: 2009-03-05 09:20 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-09-18 02:16 pm (UTC)Never? (http://davis-square.livejournal.com/3008251.html)
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Date: 2012-09-18 02:17 pm (UTC)How right you are! (http://davis-square.livejournal.com/3008251.html)