[identity profile] hikermtnbiker.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] davis_square
Are folks aware of the 4 story, mixed use development planned for the corner of Cutter and Summer next to the Rosebud? Many of the local residents only recently found out about it and are understandably upset.

The plan is to tear down the old gas station and the adjacent 2 family. The building will be 48 feet high (think One Davis) and will consist of 1st floor retail, 2nd floor office and  6 2-bedroom apartments on the 3rd and 4th floors. There will be an underground parking garage (as they will use the entire lot) that will exit onto Cutter. We are really appalled at the size of this building which will dwarf the adjacent  buildings on Summer / Cutter, not to mention the added traffic entering and exiting the garage. It is simply too big for this busy corner at the edge of a residential neighborhood.

The developer is asking for 2 special permits from the Zoning Board; one to provide 7 fewer parking spaces than is required by the zoning ordinance and the other to allow construction of a 6 unit dwelling. A group of local residents is urging the ZBA to deny the special permits with the hope that a suitably sized building that adheres to the parking regulations, and better suits the neighborhood, will be built.

If you are also concerned and wish to express your opinion and / or become more informed here is what you can do:

- Write or Fax the Zoning Board of Appeals and ask that they deny the special permits for 377 Summer St.
- Call or email Ward 6 Alderman Rebekah Gewirtz: Rebekah@rcn.com 617-718-0792
- Attend a neighborhood meeting hosted by Rebekah Gewirtz
          This Monday, June 1
          5:30 pm at Ciampa Manor 27 College Avenue
- Attend the Zoning Board of Appeals meeting
           This Wednesday, June 3, 6pm at City Hall in the Alderman's Chambers

To view the plans for the development and to read the Planning Board report, go to the city web site and planning board page and view info for 377 Summer St.

Thanks

Date: 2009-05-31 01:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tt02144.livejournal.com
The owner/developer of this property is the same developer who built the much-contested (went to court and received injunctions against residents' opinions, had to make several concessions because building was not built according to approved plan) building at the corner of Willow and Morrison Aves., he is also the owner of the strip of stores where Out of the Blue and several other businesses USED to be (stop in and chat with the owner of Out of the Blue about this developer), also a much-contested piece of property at the rear of several homes on Lexington Ave. (after 10 years of wrangling finally managed to get permits to build something somewhat suitable, finally started to build and was building according to a completely different set of plans than was approved; neighbors complained and he was forced to halt work.). This man has a terrible track record. You must be organized and vigilant, though, in order to have an impact. Go for it! I've seen the plans and it would also completely dwarf the historical Rosebud Diner. It's a horrible plan, as most of his are...but as we've found out, sometimes the real plan is up his sleeve! By the way, he's also the gentleman you've seen (I think illegally) running a weekly 'yard sale' out of the property in question.

Date: 2009-05-31 01:44 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cos
Hmm, what do you think the real plan might be?

Date: 2009-05-31 03:06 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
What was he trying to build behind the Lexington Ave. homes, and what (if anything) finally happened there?

Date: 2009-05-31 01:43 pm (UTC)
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I would try to deny them the parking variance, but not oppose the size variance.

Advantages seem to be:
supplies its own parking, so it brings more people without extra load on local parking
more people living in the square is better for local businesses, especially useful non-restaurant places
mixed use, with retail space at ground level

It's across the street from the Dilboy, yes? Doesn't seem like a bad location for this kind of building. If I were living near it, I think I'd welcome it.

Date: 2009-05-31 01:47 pm (UTC)
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Parking regs are already too generous. There should be parking maximums, not minimums.

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Date: 2009-05-31 02:07 pm (UTC)
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Whereas I'd do the opposite. Buildings this close to a Red Line station should not be required to provide large amounts of parking.

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Date: 2009-05-31 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pierceheart.livejournal.com
I'm in full agreement with you about the parking variance, but given this developer's flouting of permits in the past - screw them, no size variance.

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Date: 2009-05-31 10:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] msackton.livejournal.com
Isn't it always a good idea to let any developer who wants to build fewer parking spots do so? The permit-parking streets around Davis aren't so crowded that a few more cars will keep people from being able to park, and as far as I can tell the real effect will be to attract people to the square who don't want 2 cars for a 2 bedroom unit. That's a good thing in my mind.

Date: 2009-05-31 02:01 pm (UTC)
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If I lived in a standard 2-3 story house, and a building the height and massing of One Davis were built in the abutting lot, I would be very sad. I would miss getting any light whatsoever. But this doesn't just happen anywhere. Unless the special permits he's asking for include height and massing (FAR, floor area ratio) above the standard zoning for that lot, it sounds like the houses in that area would be vulnerable to that very fate. Always check zoning before you move somewhere, if you want to know what can and cannot happen. Much like the only way you can truly prevent something from being built in a lot near you is to buy the lot.

Hearing that this guy has tried to build in violation of approved plans at least twice is disturbing, but as someone just reminded me, I should judge the plans on their face and not on the applicant. The ZBA is also very constrained in what they are legally supposed to consider. No reason for the building inspector, though, not to be on the guy like flies on beer if he's a known problem.

Date: 2009-05-31 02:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pierceheart.livejournal.com
Always check zoning before you move somewhere, if you want to know what can and cannot happen.

Doesn't always help - there's a guy who used to post here off and on about construction near porter.
edited to correct my statements, and found a link to the discussion.
Non-resident developer failed to meet notice requirements, neighbors had no info building was going up one storey, while in court fighting the issue, developer sped construction up in order to have a fait accompli.

http://community.livejournal.com/davis_square/764016.html
Edited Date: 2009-05-31 02:38 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-05-31 03:02 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
just a minor nit: I'm not a local business person, just a resident. (If you were referring to some other Ron, ignore this comment.)

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Date: 2009-05-31 03:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dominika-kretek.livejournal.com
What worried me about this requirement for new developments to provide parking is that you can end up with a situation where there are all these garage entrances at street level, making the neighborhood extremely unfriendly to pedestrians. It would be much better to approve the construction of one large garage for commercial use.

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Date: 2009-05-31 02:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hrafn.livejournal.com
I remember seeing some drawings for this presented at a Davis Sq Task Force meeting sometime last summer (last spring? it's been probably a year since I went to a meeting), and I was really unimpressed with the design. It was pretty much a giant blocky building, and while the massing might not be all that different from the massing of the bank on the opposite corner, it totally dwarfed the other buildings on the street (Rosebud, the other 1-story businesses), and it had no elegance whatsoever, unlike the bank building. I hope the architects have come up with a better solution, but if the goal is to maximize usable space, I have my doubts :\

I think development on that corner could be a good thing, but in an enormous, ugly lump of a building, the business that it brought in would have to be aMAZing (and I mean "really positive for the community") to make up for the architecture.

Date: 2009-05-31 02:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hrafn.livejournal.com
Ok, the current drawings (http://www.somervillema.gov/cos_content/documents/SummerSt377Plans05.20.09.pdf) are a lot nicer than what I saw last year, but I wish they had included a view looking down Summer towards the corner in question; the views they have included clearly present it in the best way possible, but they are missing an important perspective.

Date: 2009-05-31 03:05 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
I recall that the main response from the people at that meeting was "pull the building back from the corner, don't build right out to it." Whether the developer listened to that with the revised plan, I don't know. People also wanted to see the design be somewhat sympathetic to the nice Art Deco bank building on the other side of Cutter Ave.

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Date: 2009-05-31 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] m00n.livejournal.com
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say: What do people think about the idea of requiring LEED certification for new developments in the square, including this one?

Date: 2009-05-31 05:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hrafn.livejournal.com
I think that requirement would be a good start (or at least require that a building meet LEED standards, even if it doesn't go through the LEED certification process, cause certification can be costly for the builder/developer).

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Date: 2009-06-02 02:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notnatalie.livejournal.com
I think ALL new construction should be LEED certified. This particular development is supposed to be LEED silver construction.

Date: 2009-05-31 04:24 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] tsuki-no-bara.livejournal.com
that will dwarf everything on that side of the street, and from the plans and the elevation it looks like they're building right up to the sidewalk. which is fine if your building is only a couple stories high, but four stories is a little overwhelming in comparison to the rest of the block. i'm all for developing that corner, but this thing has no sense of scale. and if it takes a long time for it to fill up, we'll have a big empty building on the corner, and how attractive is that?

i would absolutely deny them the parking variance, but make them put all the spaces underground. the garage entrance isn't brilliant, but where would they put above-ground parking? it's not like the developer is leaving any extra space on the property. and being able to provide dedicated parking to offices and apartments makes them more attractive.

Date: 2009-05-31 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hrafn.livejournal.com
I think that the part of the building that actually abuts the sidewalk is about a story and a half, then it steps back some distance before rising higher. So when you are right next to the building, it won't loom over you as badly as if it went 4 stories straight up from the sidewalk edge. They could have chosen better renderings to show that, though :\ And I'm not certain how out of scale it will feel from slightly farther away; again, I wish they'd provided a bigger range of renderings to show how it -really- fits in with the area.

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Date: 2009-05-31 07:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chumbolly.livejournal.com
I think this looks great, and have been hoping for just this sort of thing. I love that a former gas station is being replaced with dense, mixed use development. I hope someone does the same thing with the domino's corner. And then the get rid of that damned parking lot in the median and turn it into a plaza.

Date: 2009-05-31 07:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] m00n.livejournal.com
And then the get rid of that damned parking lot in the median and turn it into a plaza.

Haha! Way to pour gasoline onto the fire that is the parking space debate. :-)

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Date: 2009-05-31 11:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] c011een.livejournal.com
and we're upset about this why? a four story mixed commercial-residential building two blocks from the T--those bastards. don't they know how much that abandoned gas station means to us?

Date: 2009-05-31 11:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkgrrl658.livejournal.com
i don't do well with change!

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From: [identity profile] msiebler.livejournal.com
Speaking from personal experience; on my street 2 houses down they recently built a large apartment building; which did impact the sunlight to my kitchen somewhat; but i think that is a small price to pay for the added benefits of extra tax revenue to the city & extra neighbors on my block.

Date: 2009-06-04 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
If you went to either or both of these meetings, could you please make a new post (not a comment to this one) telling us what happened? Thanks.

Edit: Done, update is here.
Edited Date: 2009-06-05 01:38 am (UTC)

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