I apologize for frightening you.
When you walked into the crosswalk in front of me, I thought that you would keep going into my lane, so I prepared to go behind you. Instead, you stopped to let me pass, and it seemed like I was aiming for you. You yelled at me, which was only reasonable.
What I should have done is to stop or slow down until it was clear whether you would be in my lane, and then either go in front of you or stop to let you cross. My bad, and again, I'm sorry.
When you walked into the crosswalk in front of me, I thought that you would keep going into my lane, so I prepared to go behind you. Instead, you stopped to let me pass, and it seemed like I was aiming for you. You yelled at me, which was only reasonable.
What I should have done is to stop or slow down until it was clear whether you would be in my lane, and then either go in front of you or stop to let you cross. My bad, and again, I'm sorry.
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Date: 2009-06-04 02:15 pm (UTC)it's bad enough as well for the motorcycles out there. all these mixed vehicles need to get along better.
most of it, imho, is a sense of entitlement. "i gotta get where i wanna go, outta my way"...
be safe!
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Date: 2009-06-04 02:20 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-06-04 02:22 pm (UTC)it's worse on right turns. seems a lot of people aren't even doing California turns, they just blow right through, which leads to antics.
the left hand turners are the most special though.
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Date: 2009-06-04 02:36 pm (UTC)And there's never an excuse for not looking. But it's important to keep in mind when talking about the relative importance of car drivers and bicyclists obeying things like red light laws that the consequences of disobedience are *not* the same, legal consequences aside. If a car hits another car, there is going to be significant property damage involved and probably a significant risk to life and limb. Cars go a lot faster than bikes and they weigh two tons. If a car and a bicycle collide, the injuries are going to be ENTIRELY on the side of the bicyclist. It is not very likely that a bicycle will exactly T-bone another bicyclist because the size of the road makes panoramic visibility at that speed very good and there is a lot of room to maneuver. But even if they do collide, they are both likely to fare a lot better than if either of them had collided with a car instead.
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Date: 2009-06-04 03:59 pm (UTC)Of course Allston is a completely different story than Cambridge and Somerville. People there are completely lawless in my experience. And they hate bicyclists.
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Date: 2009-06-04 04:22 pm (UTC)I'd have to disagree with you about he narrow streets though. There is a lot more "design" and width on the roads in Cambridge than in Boston. Boston is pretty much a traffic free-for-all and the lines, where they do exist, are nonsensical. I think the effect Cambridge's lines have on drivers and bicyclists though is to lull them into a false sense of security. It makes people more likely to want to bike, but also more likely to get hurt doing it.
Not to mention the fact that Cantabrigians apparently don't know how to take a right turn and remain outside the bike lane.
To ALL bicyclists on this thread: Never trust this. If you approach an intersection with a right turn lane with the bike lane to the RIGHT of it, DO NOT get into that bike lane unless you are turning right. Get in the middle of the road. This is one of those situations where more regulation makes people totally ignore their surroundings. Drivers with a fully painted right turn lane and a green arrow to go along with it do not look AT ALL.
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Date: 2009-06-04 04:33 pm (UTC)One thing you generally can count on, at least, is that drivers are deathly afraid of bicyclists. Once you've made them aware of your location, even the very aggressive ones will at least *try* to avoid running you over, even if they honk and swear while they're doing it. The trick is getting them to notice you in the first place and figuring out how they're going to react when they do.
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Date: 2009-06-04 05:12 pm (UTC)Consider this: Coming to a complete stop and then continuing onwards requires less physical and mental effort in a car than virtually any other kind of vehicle (including walking). And yet it is the drivers who seem to feel the most offended by being made to do this. People become so rushed in their cars that virtually anything that impedes their path becomes worthy of terrible rage, even if it may only cause them to reach their ultimate destination a fraction of a second later.
Maybe what it's that driving makes people feel competitive. I can't even tell you how many times I've passed drivers in traffic on my bike only to have them deliberately speed up just to pass me again. Like, what? Are you worried I might think that my bike is faster than your car? Of course, it is, at least in the city.
Call me an optimist, but I think the world would be a much friendlier place of more people stopped driving everywhere.
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Date: 2009-06-04 07:43 pm (UTC)It's like a queer person calling any heterosexual a breeder.
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Date: 2009-06-04 04:54 pm (UTC)i hear tell that this works : stick old rare earth magnets from harddrives and other sourches to your handle bars.
when in need, snag a magnet and hurl it at the offending thing. generally, it'll clank quite hard onto steel, and well, now they've noticed you ;)
then again, then do make incredibly loud horns - like if i road in boston, i'd have a 100+ dB 12V air horn :) they cost $40ish, less large battery. heh. the 18 wheeler sound on a 2 wheeler. they work goodly on motorcycles too.
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Date: 2009-06-04 05:26 pm (UTC)Of course I think I'd need to carry around an air compressor for it to work but, eh, it's worth it.
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Date: 2009-06-04 08:56 pm (UTC)I put forth the Bohmte Plan (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18217318) where if everyone fends for your damned self, you figure out how to get where you are going, while consistently remaining alert.
its a whole case for serious deregulation... like on the autobahn, you will never, ever, ever, catch someone putting on make up, or reading the paper while driving. And I think a lot of the traffic laws designed to protect the people make them complacent, and give them wholisic excuses to not pay attention, because the law does not hold them accountable for their actions.
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Date: 2009-06-04 09:05 pm (UTC)Seconded whole heartedly. The safest intersection is one that isn't controlled at all since everyone is forced to drive through it at uber-paranoid pace.
It sounds like you've been reading Traffic (http://www.amazon.com/Traffic-Drive-What-About-Vintage/dp/0307277194/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1244149507&sr=8-3) and if you haven't you probably should. ;-)
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Date: 2009-06-04 09:27 pm (UTC)I've never read "traffic" but Thanks for the link... I just had a racecar driver for a father, so I have lots of opinions about speed, driving, danger, and banana bread without nuts.
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Date: 2009-06-05 05:26 am (UTC)The right turn is the most frightening when there is a bike lane, as the cyclist fits very neatly in an automobile's blind spot. Moreover, checking the blind spot (over my right shoulder) and checking the clearance for the turn (straight and to the right) mean I can't be looking in both places at the same time.
Whether there is a cyclist I have overtaken or not (because cyclists can come out of nowhere -- I bike too), I always check the bike lane, and then signaling, get in the bike lane with my car, and then make the right turn from the bike lane so as not to cross it. This is technically wrong, but I feel it is just safer for everybody.
As for not looking, it is instinct to look in the direction one is aiming their vehicle. It is very hard to check the blind spot and then separately check the forward direction.
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Date: 2009-06-05 01:03 pm (UTC)I think this is a good practice. Turning *across* a lane is pretty much the most dangerous thing you can do in this situation. Getting in the lane (and as close to the edge of the road as possible, basically forces bicycles to go around you on your left (which they should be doing anyway).
It is very hard to check the blind spot and then separately check the forward direction.
It's also not something drivers have to do in pretty much any other situation where they are driving defensively. This basically guarantees that a bicyclist cannot count on a driver to do it.
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Date: 2009-06-04 08:41 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-06-04 09:02 pm (UTC)I think 100 percent of the reason there aren't more cycling fatalities is just that speeds in the city (of both cars and bicycles) just aren't that fast.
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Date: 2009-06-04 09:09 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-06-04 09:12 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-06-05 03:27 pm (UTC)I totally hear you that biking in the suburbs can *feel* more scary because of the relative speeds of the other cars. I just don't think it actually puts you at greater risk.
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