[identity profile] turil.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] davis_square
For your consideration (and for those with nothing better to do, mockery), I offer you a vision of a better Somerville:

A human centered town.

and

Bringing a street to life, in NYC.

I don't imagine Somerville will be up for this sort of thing for a long time. We'll probably have to wait until Generation Circus comes into political power, locally, before the streets are reclaimed, more permanently, for joyful living. So for now, those of us who long for more truly livable streets, can just enjoy our one day of Art Beat, and be happy that we have sidewalks and tiny plazas here and there that let the humans be mostly free to live. :-)

Date: 2009-06-05 12:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jimmyfergus.livejournal.com
> enjoy our one day of Art Beat

You left out HonkFest.

HonkFest truly has seemed like a community/street phenomenon to me. I hope it flourishes.

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Date: 2009-06-05 01:16 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
It would be nice to close Elm Street between Day and Grove on warm-weather Sundays. Traffic could be diverted to Highland Avenue (use orange cones to make it two-way on those days).
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Date: 2009-06-05 01:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] m00n.livejournal.com
...and then if that works out, we could do it on Saturday too, and then maybe Friday nights, and then Thursday night...and then every weeknight...and then all the time!

How cool would it be to have all that space open for outdoor restaurant seating and concerts and such???

Date: 2009-06-05 01:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] m00n.livejournal.com
I have to admit I was thinking about that town the whole time we were having that discussion about parking regulations and that new development at the corner of Summer and Cutler. :-)

It had never occurred to me before reading that article just how much cars take away from life in the city, especially when it comes to the fact that we pretty much can't let our kids run around freely outside in the city for the sole reason that they could get hit by a car. And that's to say nothing about all the extra noise and pollution they bring and the space they take up.

Date: 2009-06-05 01:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pensivewombat.livejournal.com
"We pretty much can't let our kids run around freely outside in the city for the sole reason that they could get hit by a car."

Oh yeah? WHAT ABOUT THIS GUY:
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STRANGER DANGER AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

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Date: 2009-06-05 01:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pierceheart.livejournal.com
Holy crap, there are no more cars around here now than there were around when I was growing up in the DC area, and I still ran around and played in the streets.

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Date: 2009-06-05 02:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizzielizzie.livejournal.com
...the kids can't play in the yard and know not to go into the street? I'm confused.

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Date: 2009-06-05 07:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ukelele.livejournal.com
Kids down the street from me are outside playing hockey all the time in nice weather. One-way street, not a lot of traffic -- there are a lot of Somerville streets like that, and these kids (ranging in age from, say, 6 to 12) are plenty sensible enough to watch for traffic and get out of its way. I think the lack of kids playing on most streets says a lot more about adult paranoia than anything else.

Date: 2009-06-05 01:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redcolumbine.livejournal.com
It's slow in coming, but it's coming. This may be the only constructive aspect of the lousy driving around here; making people look forward to seeing an end to it.

Date: 2009-06-05 02:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boblothrope.livejournal.com
Where would you rather live, Beacon Hill or Charles River Park? The former has streets where cars are allowed. The latter replaced the West End, which used to be like Beacon Hill, with a car-free superblock with a few massive parking garages.

Date: 2009-06-05 02:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] m00n.livejournal.com
That depends: Would I be living on the part of Charles River Park that abuts Storrow Drive?

Date: 2009-06-05 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fefie.livejournal.com
When I was in Manhattan last week, it was awesome to see Broadway closed to traffic for several blocks in mid-town as it is being turned into a pedestrian plaza. Imagine lots of people sitting in lawn chairs out in the street in Times Sq -- it was an amazing sight!

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Date: 2009-06-05 03:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rethcir.livejournal.com
Just hope it doesn't turn into Downtown Crossing at night!

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Date: 2009-06-05 04:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badseed1980.livejournal.com
Art Beat is my least favorite day of the year in Davis. It's easier for me to get from one place to another in Davis when there are cars on the roads, than when there are hordes of pedestrians clogging the place up.

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Date: 2009-06-05 04:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] m00n.livejournal.com
Ha. I think if people were able to bring that much commerce to the streets of Davis Square every single day of the year, or even the summer, you would hear very few complaints.

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Date: 2009-06-05 04:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hikermtnbiker.livejournal.com
Oh, come on. It is only one day. You should come down and enjoy it. Or maybe it is a good excuse for a nice weekend away.

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Date: 2009-06-05 04:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hikermtnbiker.livejournal.com
Sounds truly idyllic. Imagine the quiet, save for the sound conversation and the click of free hubs. And benefits too numerous to list.

I wonder though, do we have the proper mix here of jobs, shopping, leisure, services and open space to make something like this work? Despite our density, our current mix of these items really reflects the post 50s automobile culture. Perhaps that would change in response to a change in our automobile policy but it would take a long time. In the short term maybe this works best in planned communities, as I think was described in the article. Makes me interested in learning more about Assembly Square.

Another challenge would be how to increase the economic diversity of residents in car free enclaves. Our current housing and business development along rapid transit lines overwhelming favors more affluent white collar workers. Not a reason to not do this but something that needs to be worked out.

I love your idea, Ron

Date: 2009-06-05 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] versonic.livejournal.com
I saw that article about the town in Germany a few weeks ago and loved it! It's hard in practice, though, on any family with more than two children. Can you imagine how hard it would be to lug a week's worth of groceries for anyone with more than two children? Or really, I guess, any children? It's definitely the kind of community where people have to decide they want to move TO rather than have set up around them because it is such an extreme lifestyle for most people.

However, it would be great to see the streets immediately around Davis shut down to traffic, particularly Elm, like Ron suggests.

Also, I'm at work, so I can't listen to the audio on the video - but why couldn't Somerville take part in more street art? It's so benign but adds so much to a community. I would love to see some brightly colored streets or crocheted parking meters. And I think many others would feel the same way!

But, yes, great ideas.

art

Date: 2009-06-05 06:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cthulhia
perhaps take your suggestions to the arts council? (they may not have funds, but they'll help get you a civic nod for such things.)

Somerville is already pretty supportive of street art.

the streetlamp that got may-poled on the bike path is still intact.
the public garden has some big art pieces.
sonik doesn't do his signs anymore, and not many people have stepped up to replace him.

If you want to crochet a parking meter cozy, just make sure it doesn't interfere with the maintenance of the meter, and the RMV will probably leave it there. (*other people* might take it). Haptotrope did something like that for an artbeat, but, you could probably arrange a meet-up around getting people to do it again.

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Date: 2009-06-05 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ocschwar.livejournal.com
"I saw that article about the town in Germany a few weeks ago and loved it! It's hard in practice, though, on any family with more than two children. Can you imagine how hard it would be to lug a week's worth of groceries for anyone with more than two children?"

Keep in mind that there are people all over Europe living this way. So you don't have to imagine anything, you just need to find out what they do. And the answer is that they do not lug a week's worth of groceries. Neighborhoods built this way all have grocery stores (not convenience stores) within walking distance. 3 blocks away at most, and you shop 3 times a week.

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