More bikepath garden thefts

[veronique4.livejournal.com]

Two more plants lifted from the gardens--a lavender plant and a poppy plant (total out of my pocket about $12). Also, last night someone came along (between 5 pm and 10 pm and cut about 60 poppies from the large patch that my gardening partner went to great lengths this summer to cultivate. Red, pink, yellow, and white poppies were cut; the orange were left. How bizarre. People have been loving those poppies--especially kids.

Please take pictures if you see anyone stealing plants or messing around in the gardens at odd hours. It's a violation of the entire community that enjoys these gardens each day.

Am ready to give up. Just can't deal with these petty thieves anymore.

Comments

See, now...

[turil.livejournal.com]

I actually appreciate honest feedback. I'd rather know what people really think.

Re: See, now...

[nvidia99999.livejournal.com]

It's hard to get honest feedback when our culture is so saturated with politically correct junk and near-unlimited denial of anything that does not fit a simple and reassuring narrative.

Re: See, now...

[anyee.livejournal.com]

How's "Hey, you're a douche for suggesting someone 'get over' a frustrating, constant theft of something he/she cares about."

Oh wa-

Re: See, now...

[karenjulip.livejournal.com]

Really? What do you do with that information? It was suggested that your comment was insensitive and you replied essentially by saying you're just different and look at the world in a different way than other people, which works for some people and not for others. Which seems to me as a "suck it" kind of response to people who don't appreciate your point of view. I'm not saying you SHOULD care about what other people think about your comments. But your comment here, that you appreciate honest feedback, doesn't seem accurate, unless by "appreciate" you mean "ignore". Because you didn't seem to respond to or take in the honest feedback to your comment at all. I don't mean to attack you in any way, and I'm sorry if this comes across that way. I'm just trying to understand you a little.

Information is growth

[turil.livejournal.com]

I do indeed care very much about others, which is precisely why I am willing to be honest and straightforward with them about what I think and feel, rather than couching things in flowery language and/or a facade of social niceties. I'm willing to sacrifice my "popularity" to be the one who says what needs to be said. I am the fire alarm that pisses you off because it sounds so harsh, and also saves your life because it is harsh enough to tell you to get out of a burning building.

Honest feedback helps everyone, as far as I'm concerned, because the more we know about reality, the better we are able to work with it. Which is why I give straight feedback to (rather than "ignoring") folks whenever I can. In fact, as I see it, what I do is the opposite of saying "suck it". What I do is really more of telling people "I care about you enough to scream bloody murder when something important is going on."

I don't expect people to love my alarm call, but it's worth being "annoying" if it's going to make people pay attention to stuff that could really harm them.

Re: Information is growth

[anyee.livejournal.com]

Want honest feedback? Responding to someone's upset over theft with a suggestion that said person's reaction is invalid or philosophically wrong is, at best, disordered. Empathy is a trait that we'd like to believe is intrinsic in the human condition. No, seriously. Even animals have it.

Those without empathy are usually sick: autistic. Schizophrenic. Psychopathic. I'm going with autistic.

yeah...

[turil.livejournal.com]

I know, you don't get it. It's cool, I'm ok with being the easy target for people who have a lot of stress in their lives. Vent all you want. It's good for you, right?

Re: yeah...

[anyee.livejournal.com]

Ah, I see, you're an "easy target" when I say something that you disagree with. In this case, I am a clinician and I'm merely calling it as I see it. But you know, personal growth (to you) seems to be only things that you find philosophically acceptable.

Add the DSM-IV to your readings. It'll be enlightening!

moderator note

[ron_newman]

Once again, folks, could we please hold off on the personal insults? Thanks.

Re: Information is growth

[karenjulip.livejournal.com]

You didn't answer my questions at all. I asked you what you did with the feedback you get from others, not why you give it to others. I said you might not care about what others think about you, not that you might not care about other people in general. And I didn't say your giving advice is evidence of a "suck it" mentality, but rather your response to other's feedback that your comment was insensitive was a "suck it" response to that feedback and evidence that you may not care about feedback from others, though you seem to think everyone can benefit from your own feedback (which they very well could, but you don't seem to benefit or take in others' feedback).

Re: Information is growth

[turil.livejournal.com]

As I said all feedback is valuable to everyone, and that includes me, too. I figured you knew that already.

I do the same thing as I imagine everyone does with it, assess how realistic it is (How much is it true?), decide if it's useful (How relevant is this to my goals?), and if it is realistic and useful, I figure out how to incorporate it into my life, and do my best to offer further information, if asked.

Why, do you do something different with the feedback people give you?

And again, I still see my attention and honest feedback is the opposite of "suck it" and really more of a "OK, and here's what I think, because you deserve to know what's up, so you can respond appropriately, because I actually don't want the world to suck at all." (Except things like lollipops and thumbs, and other such things. :-)