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Good without God? Millions of Americans are.
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When: Monday Nov.2, 7:30-9:30 PM
Where: Harvard Science Center Hall D. Free and Open to the Public

I thought this could be of interest. One of the member organizations is the Tufts Free Thought Society. www.facebook.com/group.php


Date: 2009-10-28 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] perich.livejournal.com
Do the (very few) people who think god means "love," rather than "a supernatural consciousness worthy of worship," not understand what the rest of the world thinks of "god" as? Is the conceptual leap, "Oh, okay, they mean 'god' as in 'that guy who lives in the clouds,' not my conception of god" too much for them?

I mean, some people think of meat as disgusting. Should every steak ad include a disclaimer?

Date: 2009-10-28 05:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turil.livejournal.com
When you are doing PR, and trying to convey a message, it's kind of crucial to actually care about what your audience thinks.

And it's actually not "very few" people who link "love" to the term "god". It may not be the only definition most people have for the word, but it's definitely one of the top definitions that get included for many, many people who've been raised with Christian traditions. That and the idea that "God is Light". I think a lot of anti-Christian folks kind of don't pay attention to that fact. I've talked with a lot of very religious folks, mostly Christian and more esoteric spirituality types, who do indeed feel that God is more of a scientific force that is easily represented as literally being the "sensation of love" and the idea of pure energy (pure light), and not at all some "guy in the sky".

Date: 2009-10-28 05:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] perich.livejournal.com
Compared to however many hundreds of millions in the Abrahamic (Judeo / Christian / Islamic) and Hindu traditions, who believe that their gods are anthropomorphic?

Date: 2009-10-28 06:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] talonvaki.livejournal.com
I believe that love exists. I also believe that light exists. I don't believe that a god exists.

To say they're all the same thing is a little...limiting.

Date: 2009-10-28 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turil.livejournal.com
It's not exactly the same thing. It's more like a metaphor. For many people "God" is a metaphor for all that is necessary for life to exist - for something to emerge out of nothing.

Re: Write them an e-mail.

Date: 2009-10-28 07:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turil.livejournal.com
I find that it's more effective when I let people come to me (http://www.thewiseturtle.com) when they are seeking my kind of approach to life.

so many ideas, so little time in life!

Date: 2009-10-28 09:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turil.livejournal.com
I imagine they are happy enough with their ideas right now. And I imagine that they've never heard of me before. If, at some point, they hear about me, and are unsatisfied with their progress, they might choose to talk to me about how to work with human nature to make even more progress, more easily.

Re: so many ideas, so little time in life!

Date: 2009-10-28 11:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turil.livejournal.com
I don't imagine it will ever happen. I'm probably too busy to help them anyway. But you never know...

If I thought it was nonsense, I wouldn't bother.

Date: 2009-10-29 10:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turil.livejournal.com
I don't have time for that. But important information that most people don't know (given the responses here, you can see how few people actually understand it), I try to make time to share. That's my job. Giving people ideas to think about with the goal of making a better (healthier) world. It's a lot of work, as you can imagine. But it's all worth it!

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