[identity profile] pjmorgan.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] davis_square
I'm going to pick a fight in a passive aggressive way, if that is possible.

So Somerville fines if you shovel snow into the street??!!!
http://www.wickedlocal.com/somerville/news/x1689216222/Fines-set-for-Somervilles-non-shovelers

This is bogus on so many ways.

First of all, during the last storm, right after I shoveled my sidewalk and "shoveled" snow onto my sidewalk. Not just into my driveway (which I've come to expect). Can I fine the city for that?

So is this defined as into the middle of the street, or along the edges? Sometimes you have to shovel just a little bit into the first couple feet of the street. If someone shovels out their car, will that trigger it?

In general, I find it annoying that my real estate taxes go to clearing the roads (which I don't even use since I'm doing my part by not driving) so I guess I have a chip on my shoulder.

And hopefully I just don't understand the regulation. What is the definition of shoveling into the street that they are going off of?

Re: More on the list:

Date: 2010-01-22 01:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] srakkt.livejournal.com
Think it through.

The emergency vehicles cannot A) predict where they are going to be needed or B) use only some "correspondingly small" percentage-clear road to arrive at your home from their garage.

In other words, in order for the emergency response function of local government to be met when there is snow on the ground, all of the roads must be kept reasonably clear.

The amount of general funds required to do so is independent of the number of vehicles using the roads, and instead is dependent upon the amount and type of snowfall.

Let's - as a thought experiment - imagine a world wherein it is as you say: the "percentage share" of roadway use engaged by emergency vehicles is calculated, and that percentage of the cost of road clearing is then borne by the city, and no more.

Some questions about that world:

* Who removes the rest of the snow? As has been previously noted, having only some roads made only partially clear fails to be a useful state for emergency response. In order to clear those roads in a timely fashion requires human intervention - waiting for it to melt is not an acceptable answer.

* How much time does it take to remove the rest of the snow?

Making a couple of assumptions - namely that the snow is removed in a timely fashion by private plow-owners.

* Should those individuals be compensated for their time? For their fuel? For vehicle upkeep?

* Where does *that* money come from?

Now, I'm not suggesting that there exists no other model for the solution of the road plowing problem, but I'm curious to know what you actually have in mind. The "pay for the share of traffic" argument is pretty flawed, and I can't imagine that you actually meant that seriously.

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