previous post deleted

[lyonesse.livejournal.com]

at the suggestion of several commenters, i've removed my previous post.

thanks y'all, it's been enlightening.

Comments

[molyflogs.livejournal.com]

After reading the last post, the comments to it, and then seeing this post, I've decided that you're essentially an attention whore.

You do recognize that this post is exactly the same as your last one, right? You managed only to effectively delete the negative comments? You've still got a post in the same spot, in the same community, directing people to look in the exact same spot.

You're really, really bad at this.

[lyonesse.livejournal.com]

ok, i'll remove the direction.

[molyflogs.livejournal.com]

Or, you know. The whole post. Because no one gives three craps about you deleting your post, and you announcing such is nearly as stupid as your issue.

[lbmango.livejournal.com]

No, this isn't totally the same. Because this doesn't imply that the drama-post has anything to do with DS_LJ. If people want to look at the original post to see the drama, then they do that at their own risk.

I think that this is a reasonable post saying that she deleted the post herself, and it wasn't deleted by the mods.

Also, this is DS_LJ. We're *ALL* attention whores here. Why else would anyone post in a community like this?

[lyonesse.livejournal.com]

don't push it :)

[lyonesse.livejournal.com]

i tried to make the "read if you care" thing part of the original text, but i guess it wasn't enough to make a difference. but yeah, i wanted to make it clear that i'd done the removing.

[ringrose.livejournal.com]

Saying "I deleted the post" is useful because it tells the community that the removal was her choice, not done to her by moderators. I'd tell you (molyflogs) to ease up, but then you would probably take your issues out on me instead.

moderator note

[ron_newman]

As one of four moderators here, I'm glad to see this second post because it tells me (and the other three mods) what happened to the first one. Otherwise, we'd all be e-mailing each other asking "did you delete it?"

[pywaket.livejournal.com]

And boy oh boy does molyflog have issues. The account has no friends listed and no info given. And every post or response I've ever seen from that account has been nasty or snarky. I smell troll....

Re: moderator note

[surrealestate.livejournal.com]

The appropriate place to post such a think would have been davis_meta. This post doesn't belong here, either.

[real-green-tea.livejournal.com]

I thought the original post was highlighting an experience one person (the original poster) had, in a community activity local to the Davis Square area. The experience included assault, verbal abuse, getting kicked out of the group... and also a legal battle.

While one person's experience, it could be good for people in the Davis Square community to know about the risks they might be taking joining such a group. Or at least to be able to weigh the poster's experience against, say, conversations with other members of that group, or their own experiences.

People write here about their experiences good/bad/indifferent concerning local events and businesses; how is this different?

NB: I do think it is not tactful to use peoples' real names in a public post. Additionally I understand and acknowledge that the the user's original post was to an individual journal for cathartic or therapeutic purposes and a different message or tone might be appropriate for a post to a community group. Thus maybe linking here would not be the best.

[lbmango.livejournal.com]

It's DS_LJ, EVERYONE is snarky and EVERYONE has issues...

expect otherwise and you're going to be disappointed...

Re: moderator note

[ron_newman]

Although the original post didn't violate any of our stated community rules, it made me really uncomfortable and I'm glad that the original poster removed it.

I did not know that this second post originally contained the same link. That was not appropriate and I'm glad it's gone too.

[lafew.livejournal.com]

The original post wasn't relevant to DSLJ, but unfortunately you've made made it relevant. In the process of making what I assume was a legitimate complaint, you essentially encouraged everyone in Davis to think of certain other people (who spend a lot of time in Davis) as bad people.

When I commented sympathetically but pointed out that the leadership & membership of SCUL, counter to your accusation, do care about people, and did a lot of heart-wrenching and soul-searching to figure out a way to satisfy you -- you replied "I have no way to verify this claim, I had no visibility into SCUL process." Then why level the accusation in the first place?

Please don't delete this post too. I'm afraid people who only saw your first post will retain that unfair characterization.

Re: moderator note

[lbmango.livejournal.com]

I don't think it contained a link. It contained a phrase referencing her own LJ... hinting that if you were interested, you could click on the icon to see her personal LJ...

[hahathor.livejournal.com]

FWIW, I don't know many of the folks at SCUL, and know few of them personally. The post has done nothing to alter my opinions of them. Altering my opinions of the OP is another issue altogether.

[rikchik.livejournal.com]

I don't know lyonesse or anything about the internals of SCUL, but if I was told a group did a lot of heart-wrenching and soul-searching on my behalf but ended up taking no useful or visible action, I don't think I'd care.

[pywaket.livejournal.com]

She(?) seems worse than usual, even for dslj. Check out her nasty reply to sarcasticpixie a week ago...

[ron_newman]

I didn't see that at the time, but I just now went back there with an appropriate comment.

[lafew.livejournal.com]

That's a good point; if lyonesse didn't know about the efforts and the actions, then they weren't very well-chosen, were they? Again, I wasn't there. But I'm having a harder time believing that she wasn't aware of them. She's within rights to not be satisfied, but not to say that they didn't exist.

[pywaket.livejournal.com]

Well, I was there, and as far as I'm concerned, nothing useful was done by the leadership. Some of us did try quite hard, and lyonesse is aware of our efforts and has thanked us, but we received no help whatsoever from the people who made the final decisions. If there was any soul searching on the part of the organization, they did a damn fine job of hiding it...

[pywaket.livejournal.com]

Lyonesse has told nothing but the truth. If people think less well of those in SCUL because of the way many of them behaved, and they are upset about it, maybe they should consider behaving differently the next time. This isn't the first time SCUL has done this to a former member, Lyonesse is merely the first to speak up about it and refuse to go quietly.

[pywaket.livejournal.com]

Thanks for your thoughtful response. :-)

[pywaket.livejournal.com]

Nobody forced you to follow the pointer and read the posting... Methinks thou doth protest too much.

Re: moderator note

[lyonesse.livejournal.com]

that is correct.