[identity profile] smoterh.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] davis_square

I apologize for cross-posting if you've read this before somewhere else :) but I thought it was worth mentioning it here.

Recently the Somerville Patch interviewed Mathew  Berry (riding his bike in Davis Square) on "further reducing the cost of bike ownership". Two weeks later they ran a story about a bike thief named Mathew Berry who has been arrested for stealing bikes on Beacon Hill. Patch doesn't realize the connection until it's pointed out in the comments.

Date: 2011-04-14 04:04 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
Thanks for posting this -- I was thinking of posting it here too. (Where else did you 'cross-post' it?)

Date: 2011-04-14 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
I don't know anything about reddit, but "cross-posting" here usually means that you posted it both to DSLJ and to some other place on the web (perhaps another LJ community).

This is hilarious, and I added a couple more tags for you.
Edited Date: 2011-04-14 04:13 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-04-14 04:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] benndragon.livejournal.com
Cross-posting means making the exact same post in multiple places (either within the same site, e.g. one's personal LJ and a community on LJ, or across sites, e.g. on LJ and on Facebook). People sometimes point out they've done this because it can be annoying to start reading a full post only to realize you've already read it three paragraphs in, plus the time wasted with scanning to make sure it's actually the same thing. I suspect the apology format for such declarations developed because people didn't realize this was a problem until after someone complained, for which an apology is the proper response.

The term for posting something someone else posted elseweb is "reposting" (with variants such as "retweeting" (RT)); this is rarely apologized for, since declaring its origin immediately lets people know if they've read it already. If you're not actually quoting that other post outright, but instead provide links to it, that's "linking" or possibly "sharing", which is pretty much never apologized for because that's what the web is for.

Internet etiquette is a fascinating and observable example of unwritten social contracts forming and changing in real time, to me. I'm sorry for the long ramble if it's way less interesting to you ;).

Date: 2011-04-16 01:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] diatomacearth.livejournal.com
I'd just like to say that this is a lovely and civilized explanatory comment, and I particularly liked the concluding bit.

There is a special place in my heart for people who politely explain this shit instead of telling people to Just Fucking Google It, Like Our Cave-Man Ancestors Did Whenever They Encountered Something Unfamiliar.

Date: 2011-04-14 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clevernonsense.livejournal.com
i guess stealing is his preferred way of reducing his cost of bike ownership

Date: 2011-04-14 09:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icecreamempress.livejournal.com
It is certainly a logical solution, if not an ethical one!

Date: 2011-04-15 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pekmez.livejournal.com
sorry, i didn't notice that the joke was already made before I tried making it.

Date: 2011-04-14 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
I found a couple of other arrests for this guy in the past year, at least one of which was also for bicycle theft. I posted a comment over at Patch and am also reposting it here:

Is he also perhaps the same "Matthew Berry, 30" arrested at 58 Simpson Ave. in Somerville on 12/21/10 for "larceny of item(s) valued over $250 by a single scheme" ?
http://somerville.patch.com/articles/police-log-eleven-arrests

and also the same "Matthew Berry, 29, of 47C Franklin St. in Somerville" arrested by Cambridge police on 8/16/10 for receiving stolen property (a bicycle stolen in Leominster)? At that time he also had two outstanding warrants for other larcenies.

http://www2.cambridgema.gov/CPD/News/newsDetail.cfm?story_id=2852

Date: 2011-04-14 04:55 pm (UTC)
smammy: (Default)
From: [personal profile] smammy
Patch-ian "Christopher Treacy" seemed a bit defensive when you pointed this out in the comments: "And so... Ron, Sir, would you like us to *do* something about this? What's done is done." Touchy, touchy!

Date: 2011-04-14 05:12 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
Doesn't bother me, though I think Denise Taylor would have handled it more diplomatically.

Date: 2011-04-18 07:19 pm (UTC)
squirrelitude: (Default)
From: [personal profile] squirrelitude
Looks like he misunderstood your tone. Ah well.

A later commenter had a good point about libel, though -- we don't know this is the same Matthew Berry.

Date: 2011-04-14 08:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clevernonsense.livejournal.com
yeah, i see no issue with them missing this--it's a funny coincidence and it becomes newsworthy on its own. It's not like they should retract the first article.

Date: 2011-04-14 08:59 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
Agreed

Date: 2011-04-14 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icecreamempress.livejournal.com
"What's done is done"?

HEY MR. TREACY, LET ME INTRODUCE YOU TO SOME BASIC CONCEPTS OF JOURNALISM:

A) THE FOLLOW-UP STORY

B) THE RETRACTION

Date: 2011-04-15 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rethcir.livejournal.com
That's the beauty of Blogging.. All the pomp and circumstance of journalism with none of the responsibility!

Date: 2011-04-14 05:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mjrocks98.livejournal.com
well this brings the LOLs. I think I may have wet myself laughing.

Date: 2011-04-14 06:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amy-s1.livejournal.com
is there a photo of this guy anywhere?

Date: 2011-04-14 06:13 pm (UTC)
smammy: (Default)
From: [personal profile] smammy
Preferably riding a stolen bike!

Date: 2011-04-14 08:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gee-tar.livejournal.com
I wonder if he was the one who stole my bike 6 years ago.

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