[personal profile] ron_newman posting in [community profile] davis_square
Cambridge Day's Marc Levy toured the bfresh store with me last Friday, but took much more extensive notes. Here is his report on the new store.

Date: 2017-02-07 09:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wintahill.livejournal.com
There were at least two bar/restaurant proposals for the space that I am aware of.

The first was a bar called World of Beers, which is a national chain based in Florida. They have since opened a location at the Cambridgeside Galleria mall, where California Pizza Kitchen used to be. The former ward alderman was against this business, because it was a bar with no substantial food menu and that it was a large/national chain. They tried to compromise by allowing outside food to be brought in, but ultimately they gave up and walked away.

Next Boston Beer Works proposed to open a location in the same spot. They proposed to have a full in house kitchen and food menu and they are a very small eastern MA based chain. The former ward alderman then decided to argue that even though they would have food and were not a national chain, that Boston Beer Works and their menu was too "generic".

This appeared increasingly as grasping at straws on her part, to prevent another "evil" bar from opening in Davis Square, as we were apparently in danger of having Davis Sq turn into Landsdowne street. This was an actual argument put forth at community meetings on this proposal. At that point she shifted tactics all together and pulled "there are no liquor licenses available for Davis Sq" out of her magicians top hat. This argument had never been raised at all during the World of Beers community meetings prior to this, but popped up as soon as the food and anti-chains arguments started losing traction. Just as World of Beers eventually gave up, so did Boston Beer Works. Boston Beer Works then opened up a new location in the former Watch City Brewing space in Waltham. Within about two months of Boston Beer Works walking away from renting the Social Security building space, the Aldermen were somehow able to locate a liquor license for Meju to open up in Davis Sq directly across the street.

The bias of the former alderman was very apparent and she skillfully placed roadblocks in front of these potential business that did not fit her vision for the square. As demonstrated by their investment and successful opening of additional locations in nearby towns, these two proposed tenants were certainly viable options for filling the Social Security building space.

Date: 2017-02-07 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teko.livejournal.com
Agreed, her tactics were embarrassingly transparent, and caused a lot of frustration.

I apologize -- you're right, I had gotten Beer Works and World of Beers mixed up. The Beer Works presentation was very slick, and they had a nice proposal, though a lot of people complained that it was too generic and too much like a "sports bar". The World of Beers chain are the folks who made a hash of their proposal to the public by doing things like promising "lots of local beers" but not being able to name a single local brewer they'd be sourcing beer from.

Date: 2017-02-08 03:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keithn.livejournal.com
This is an excellent summary of the entire saga. Thank you for writing this up.

Date: 2017-02-09 04:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serious-noir.livejournal.com
Hopefully now you will donate your sad stalking horse to Goodwill – your whining about "not enough beer in Davis Sq...yadda yadda.. mean alderman yadda yadda " has been incredibly tiresome (not to mention juvenile and inaccurate)

Many of us care more about what the character of DS is long term than "where we can get a beer after work" (that's a paraphrase of a remark from you).

So no "saga" except in the minds of the looking-to-be bruised because the world doesn't work they way they want it to.

Happy days

Date: 2017-02-09 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keithn.livejournal.com
I generally ignore low grade trolling here, but in the interest of accuracy to people who may not have been actively monitoring this community over the years I feel compelled to just point out that you aren't paraphrasing anything that I have ever said. Given that there are many people who have similar feelings to me (as this thread can attest) I can see how you might have mixed someone else up with me.
Edited Date: 2017-02-09 05:56 pm (UTC)

Date: 2017-02-09 06:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serious-noir.livejournal.com
..and I generally have bitten my tongue over your endless whining here about "the big bad alderman" and how she prevented you from drinking "beer" ...but as that retail space is now filled (with a very nice business) and there are better things to whine about, I suggest you move on.

(and yes, you did make remarks like the one I paraphrased.)

Date: 2017-02-09 06:16 pm (UTC)

Date: 2017-02-09 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keithn.livejournal.com
Surely you could provide a link to such a statement if it were made. I did a quick search and found nothing, and I have made no public comments on this topic anywhere but in this LiveJournal community. The only contributions from yourself to such discussions were trolling various community members:

http://davis-square.livejournal.com/3282190.html?thread=35638798#t35638798
http://davis-square.livejournal.com/3314035.html?thread=35887219#t35887219

etc.

Is this fun for you?
Edited Date: 2017-02-09 08:50 pm (UTC)

Date: 2017-02-09 08:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serious-noir.livejournal.com
I stand by my remarks – but I'll let you buy me a donut.

Date: 2017-02-09 08:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keithn.livejournal.com
Could you find the comment you are "paraphrasing" or edit the "paraphrase" out of your reply?

Date: 2017-02-09 08:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serious-noir.livejournal.com
Yes, I could.

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