[personal profile] ron_newman posting in [community profile] davis_square
As of this morning, the Davis T station has been converted to Charlie gates.
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Date: 2006-11-14 07:51 pm (UTC)

Date: 2006-11-14 08:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nonnihil.livejournal.com
I'll have to remember to convert the last of my tokens tonight. Thanks for the heads-up.

Load up your Charlie tickets early, before all the vending machines crap out and stay unrepaired like the old token machines did.

Date: 2006-11-14 08:20 pm (UTC)
spatch: (Barth Gimble facepalms)
From: [personal profile] spatch
Vending machines, hell! I'm waiting for the Charlie gates to crap out and stay unrepaired.

And as far as the token machines go, I have to hand it to the T for making them so unreliable that the little flip-up "OUT OF SERVICE" sign was a standard feature in the design. They knew, all right!

Date: 2006-11-14 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clevernonsense.livejournal.com
I have to say, I absolutely love and prefer the new system, despite all the whiners. For those with passes it means nothing really. The turnover's been a pain but I don't see how it could have been done much better...and for those like me who use the T somewhat regularly but not enough to justify a pass, it's so much easier to buy a $10 card and keep it in my wallet. Lasts me about two weeks and I never lose it, unlike whenever I tried buying 4 or more tokens..

I will be using my bike more often once they raise the rates though.

Date: 2006-11-14 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skexy.livejournal.com
I find buying the passes easier; but I always feel slowed down at the new gates, and that's just not good. I also feel as though the 'upgrade' is just there to be a good excuse for them to go forward with the obscene price hike that's been proposed.

In any case, I was getting sick of feeling like herded cattle while the fences weere up during the process at Davis. That was just not good.

Date: 2006-11-14 08:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magid.livejournal.com
For those with passes it means nothing really.
Actually, it's the annoyance of having to stop and wait for the machine to let me through. And the loud noise.

Date: 2006-11-14 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] watchamacallit.livejournal.com
And the fare boxes jamming up and eating passes.

Date: 2006-11-14 08:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] secretlyironic.livejournal.com
While they were ripping up the station, you could get away without paying, just by throwing anything-- some pennies, a rock, trash-- into the little "pay here" bucket. Not that I did, but it certainly would have been easy to do.

The thing that amuses me about the rate change is how people are outraged about the "non-card-using surcharge." If the T had called it a "frequent-buyer discount" everyone would be thrilled at how reasonable an idea it was.

Date: 2006-11-14 08:52 pm (UTC)
ext_12411: (bride of)
From: [identity profile] theodosia.livejournal.com
I'm just interested in seeing how the Charlie gates handle the EXODUS when a quarter-bazillion Somervillains are exiting all at once.

Date: 2006-11-14 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nonnihil.livejournal.com
Fortunately, the gates stay open when a bunch of people are leaving, rather than closing between each.

They're dumb, but not that dumb.

Date: 2006-11-14 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lonely-squirrel.livejournal.com
The gates don't close in between people who are exiting. It's only on entrance where they don't open properly.

Date: 2006-11-14 09:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] komos.livejournal.com
You'll also see the cost of the spiffy new gate system reflected in fare hikes!

Date: 2006-11-14 09:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] treacle-well.livejournal.com
I've not seen it. I use a monthly pass. Wonder if it's more of a problem with the paper cards.

Date: 2006-11-14 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] watchamacallit.livejournal.com
I think it happens more often on the new bus fare boxes but, judging by the number of people in line for new passes when I had to get one, YES. The MBTA neglected to open a new office for replacement passes and is having an already busy department take care of it.

Date: 2006-11-14 09:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] watchamacallit.livejournal.com
The paper cards are the ones that get stuck.

Date: 2006-11-14 09:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] treacle-well.livejournal.com
At least at most subway station entrances there are multiple gates--but it is enough of a delay to be annoying. I also thought it was better when your card never left your hand. But, where there's a real slowdown is getting on the buses (even when everyone knows what to do with their card and does it).

Date: 2006-11-14 09:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] matthew miller (from livejournal.com)
Yeah, geez, the buzzer going off all the time while waiting for the train isn't gonna be pleasant.

On the other issue, though, the stop-and-wait initially at least seems more pleasant then when you scan your pass and then step into the turnstyle only to realize that the card didn't register. Ow!

Date: 2006-11-14 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] matthew miller (from livejournal.com)
The main thing I'm happy about is the automatic handicapped exit. Before, with a stroller, I had to wait until someone in the booth deigned to notice me and hit the release. More than once, I'd make eye contact and indicate that I needed out, and the booth person would WAVE DISMISSIVELY. Argh.

(Aside: getting around the T with a little kid is annoying enough, but basically is a voluntary condition. It makes me really sympathetic to those who have no choice. Man is the T awful at accessibility issues.)

Date: 2006-11-14 09:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] matthew miller (from livejournal.com)
I've been annoyed at South Station with floods of people trying to come out while I'm trying to get in. You feed your card through, and a flood of people walk through the other way -- make sure you shove through, or you'll have to wait 20 minutes for your pass to work again.

It might have been nice to have a few dedicated exits.
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