[identity profile] two-stabs.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] davis_square
http://www.yellowpagesgoesgreen.org/ allows you to opt out* of receiving enormous wastes of paper that were useful prior to 1989.  Click it.  USE IT.

www.yellowpagesgoesgreen.org

* A non-binding petition is submitted to the local Yellow Pages distribution machine

Date: 2009-02-24 02:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pierceheart.livejournal.com
There is no national no-delivery organization like the National Do Not Call Registry (https://www.donotcall.gov/). Individual Yellow and White Page organizations state that you can call them and they will put you on a list to not deliver books. But they are not held liable or accountable if the book shows up anyway. www.YellowPagesGoesGreen .org will contact the publishers with the sign up forms to have them "opt out" the individual or business that signs up. It will be the responsibility of the publishers to act in accordance to the consumer’s demand

There's nothing in what this group does that will prevent the publishers from sending the books.

Date: 2009-02-24 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pierceheart.livejournal.com
I don't trust giving yet another company/org my address.

They say they aren't going to sell it off.

There's no way to prove they haven't done so.

Date: 2009-02-24 03:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pierceheart.livejournal.com
And have any of those people doing the positive feedback used trick names to prove whether or not the org sold their names off?

Like I said - there's no way to be sure they haven't sold you name off.

Do YOU know which companies you order things from or give your info to, have sold off their data?

Date: 2009-02-24 07:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkgrrl658.livejournal.com
actually, whenever my father has to give his name, email, etc for a new thing, he will use a different title or suffix, or transpose a few of the letters, use a different middle initial, etc. this way he knows when he starts getting things sent to certain names, where they got the info.

Date: 2009-02-24 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pierceheart.livejournal.com
I have thought of that, and I had heard of it, for example, giving a name as John LL Smith, when ordering from LL Bean.

Date: 2009-02-24 03:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_mattt/
In the process of signing up, I too noticed that this is merely a "petition", and in no way a binding list to not deliver.

I signed up anyway, but I now rue such decision as I realize I just confirmed a good e-mail address for possibly nothing.

Date: 2009-02-24 02:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] desiringsubject.livejournal.com
Not, I suspect, in and around Davis Square, but there are still people and places where phone directories are very important. The internet is not universally accessible. I don't want one myself, but I hope they don't go out of business quite yet.

Date: 2009-02-24 04:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwodder.livejournal.com
I wonder if the resulting tumors will help me tune into my daily entertainment fix!

Date: 2009-02-24 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thetathx1138.livejournal.com
Yeah, it'll combine with all the mercury in those vaccines you got as a kid that gave you autism.

Date: 2009-02-24 04:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwodder.livejournal.com
i cultivated this autism on purpose

Date: 2009-02-24 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwodder.livejournal.com
i'm too tumor-ridden/autistic to lern moar science today

Date: 2009-02-24 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thetathx1138.livejournal.com
Don't worry, as noted above, the opt-in is totally voluntary, meaning the Yellow Pages will ignore this list completely and still dump these books on everyone's front porch.

Date: 2009-02-24 03:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thetathx1138.livejournal.com
Obama, I believe in. But I also believe in the power of greed over the power of doing the right thing (see also: John Thain's whining about how those Merrill Lynch bonuses were totally justified because, and I quote, "nothing happened in the market or the economy.")

Date: 2009-02-24 07:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] m00n.livejournal.com
You know you can always call the phone company and order one if you want it, right?

Date: 2009-02-24 03:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thetathx1138.livejournal.com
I signed up, although I can tell you right now that the Yellow Pages sells way too much in advertising for them to pay any attention to this list. They'll take the list, say thank you, wipe their ass with it, and deliver them again next year.

I'm especially annoyed because I live in a duplex with eight people total, so they dump a pallet of the things on the porch. Nobody's taken one in.

Date: 2009-02-24 03:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thetathx1138.livejournal.com
Nah, too expensive.

Let's built a fort for the homeless out of 'em.

Date: 2009-02-24 03:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_mattt/
You could sign up for each apartment with a different name and a different e-mail address.

Date: 2009-02-24 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thetathx1138.livejournal.com
I could, but I can't speak for my fellow residents. I can let 'em know about the site, though!

Date: 2009-02-24 03:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_mattt/
Thank you for posting this useful link.

Like junk mail, phone books are now just a means of taking money from consumers and generating profit for few and tremendous amounts of waste for all.

I do not agree, however, that phone books are useless. Wait until you need to place a call when the high speed cable or power goes out. Also, not everyone is an Internet-savvy 20/30-something. Many people from older generations still rely on them.

But still, considering the other avenues available now, it should be an opt-in, not an opt-out.

My only suggestion is to note in your original post that this is a petition to opt-out, and is in no way binding (such as the national do not call registry).

Date: 2009-02-24 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thetathx1138.livejournal.com
Wait until you need to place a call when the high speed cable or power goes out

This is why I went ahead and stored all the important emergency numbers (plumber, electrician, landlord) on my cell-phone. And if you're REALLY paranoid, keep a solar-chargeable battery handy!

Date: 2009-02-24 03:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_mattt/
That's not paranoid enough: I use a land line* because cell phone towers are typically powered off the main electrical grid, but landline telephone service usually has its own dedicated power source and will remain in service in all but the most severe outages. Of course, if the power is out, who would I call?

* I have a land line, but that's not really why.

Date: 2009-02-24 03:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pierceheart.livejournal.com
Of course, if the power is out, who would I call?

Ghostbusters!

Date: 2009-02-24 04:24 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-02-24 04:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thetathx1138.livejournal.com
Well, for something as serious as total grid failure, that's a separate issue. I'm talking about Internet croaking or power outage in just a house.

Date: 2009-02-24 05:42 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
Of course, if the power is out, who would I call?

NStar, for starters.

Date: 2009-02-24 05:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dmcgettrick.livejournal.com
What happens when the aliens come and use our satellites against us...

Date: 2009-02-24 07:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dmcgettrick.livejournal.com
you bet your sweet ass they can

Date: 2009-02-25 04:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thetathx1138.livejournal.com
Oh, they already are. That's why Dish Network is so desperate to get you to sign up, the aliens can't send the mind control signals over cable.

Date: 2009-02-24 05:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plumtreeblossom.livejournal.com
not everyone is an Internet-savvy 20/30-something.

Like us 40-somethings who use rotary dial phones and can't figure out why TV went away.

Date: 2009-02-24 05:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boblothrope.livejournal.com
TV didn't go away yet, except FOX.

Date: 2009-02-24 06:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plumtreeblossom.livejournal.com
And what else is worth watching, young feller?!?

Date: 2009-02-24 06:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_mattt/
(LOL) Don't you need to get to the Old Time Country Buffet in the Meadow Glenn Mall for dinner?

Date: 2009-02-24 07:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plumtreeblossom.livejournal.com
Dang it, I've been trying to post this reply from my manual typewriter for 3 hours and its still not working!

Date: 2009-02-24 03:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redcolumbine.livejournal.com
Looks like just another junkmail address harvester to me, but I'll try it by way of exhausting my remedies. I don't expect it to stem the flow, though. I'm still behind the aldermen's attempt to get them classed as litter unless somebody opts IN.

Date: 2009-02-24 05:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] genesayssitdown.livejournal.com
one time the internet stopped working and i got DESPERATE for a phone book.

Date: 2009-02-24 07:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] m00n.livejournal.com
Google SMS (http://www.google.com/mobile/default/sms.html)
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