[identity profile] leko.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] davis_square
So my girlfriend called the parking office and got called back by a clerk. The clerk told her it was their policy that the stickers need to be "permanently adhered to the windows" so tape or some other adhesive won't work unless it's permanent. When she asked if this was documented anywhere she could reference she was told no, it's just their policy. The next step is appeal the ticket and see what happens.

Unfortunately my girlfriend didn't think to ask if there were any other undocumented policies that you can get tickets for.

Date: 2009-07-22 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valadil.livejournal.com
I got an appeal for this issue last year, but they told me not to let it happen again.

Date: 2009-07-22 06:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] spatch
Another obvious-but-not-always-apparent policy is that if you move from, say, Cambridge to Somerville in the same year, you can't keep the Cambridge sticker on your window once you've gotten the Somerville sticker. Yeah, it's logical, but some things you only learn after you've been ticketed for it.

And my experience with the Traffic Dept is much like [livejournal.com profile] valadil's. I appealed, spoke to a nice person on Holland Ave, and was told not to let it happen again. (Actually, the conversation went like "And the Cambridge sticker is gone from your car, right?" "It certainly is now.") As long as your girlfriend has a relatively clean ticket record I don't think they'd refuse to waive it this time.

Date: 2009-07-22 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wonkywheels.livejournal.com
How much is the ticket for that? I have a Somerville sticker on my car, but I just got a Cambridge one, which I have not yet affixed.

Date: 2009-07-22 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boblothrope.livejournal.com
What? That's totally ridiculous, especially if it's an unwritten policy.

I see cars all the time that have old stickers from several different cities.

Why should Somerville care if you have a sticker from another city that's technically invalid under that other city's rules because you no longer live there? Does it just apply to stickers from nearby, or would a sticker from, say, San Francisco violate this secret policy?

Some (very small number of) cities allow nonresidents to have stickers in certain circumstances. What would Somerville do if you had an old sticker from one of those places?

Date: 2009-07-22 06:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turil.livejournal.com
My husband, mentioned that there was some state law that made it illegal to put anything on the driver's side of the windshield of a car (as it interferes with a driver's vision). Probably not relevant to your issue, but notable, nonetheless.

Date: 2009-07-22 07:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] qwrrty.livejournal.com
Huh, that's interesting -- every single time I've gotten an oil change, they've put the little reminder decal at the top of the windshield on the driver's side. Now I'm curious to see whether that's actually a violation.

He's *Almost* Right...

Date: 2009-07-22 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] derekp.livejournal.com
Chapter 90: Section 9D. Windshields and windows obscured by nontransparent materials

Section 9D. No person shall operate any motor vehicle upon any public way or upon any way to which the public shall have the right of access with any of the following affixed thereto:

(1) a sign, poster or sticker on the front windshield, the side windows immediately adjacent to the operator’s seat and the front passenger seat, the side windows immediately to the rear of the operator’s seat and the front passenger seat and the rear window in such a manner so as to obstruct, impede or distort the vision of the operator.

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The catch is that last little bit.

Re: He's *Almost* Right...

Date: 2009-07-23 01:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pekmez.livejournal.com
Wait. Does that say that the new spot we are required to put our parking stickers is illegal under MGL? It definitely obstructs a bit of MY vision as a short operator and that has been irking me since they changed the place you're supposed to put the ticket.

Re: He's *Almost* Right...

Date: 2009-07-23 03:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nvidia99999.livejournal.com
It does obstruct. If something shows up right in that spot you would not see it.

Date: 2009-07-22 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whaler.livejournal.com
I think that when you get the sticker there is a sheet that has instructions on where to put it etc. I might still have mine at home somewhere, but I think that might qualify as their documentation.
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Date: 2009-07-22 07:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madscientist01.livejournal.com
Semi-permanent enough that you probably won't try to transfer it from one car to another and you probably can't take it off the windshield without ripping it to shreds. So it is either permanently on, or no longer in usable condition.

Date: 2009-07-22 07:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkgrrl658.livejournal.com
see, and i thought about the not being able to move it? but someone in the other post says the sticker has the plate # written in sharpie on it. so i don't see why then it matters if it's in the correct car what you want to adhere it with. interesting anyway.

Date: 2009-07-22 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] purpless77.livejournal.com
That is so ridiculous. I hope she can get it appealed.

Looks like everything is ridiculous...

Date: 2009-07-23 03:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nvidia99999.livejournal.com
Glad to know you are having fun laughing all the time! :)

Re: Looks like everything is ridiculous...

Date: 2009-07-23 05:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] purpless77.livejournal.com
Out of my saying, "this is so ridiculous and I hope she can get it appealed" you think I'm laughing? That is odd. I'm not laughing. If I was you would have seen "lol". This isn't a laughing matter. I've called two things on this board ridiculous. Stop being bitter because YOU chose to live in a city near an airport, a city that holds family events, a city that has Jehovah witnesses, etc, seriously. Quit being so selfish. The world doesn't revolve around you. Neither does the Internet. Every thread isn't about you nor should it be turned into one.

Re: Looks like everything is ridiculous...

Date: 2009-07-23 12:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nvidia99999.livejournal.com
You are being ridiculous.

Date: 2009-07-23 01:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pekmez.livejournal.com
Ugh. I hope she gets it appealed.

I always leave mine propped up in the window for weeks until I manage to get the old one off. Especially now that they've decided you should have it in the front windshield where if you have more than one you are screwing up your visibility, and when my sticker expires in January when it is hard to find a good day to spend an extra few minutes in a cold car trying to get the damn thing unstuck, or find a good time to ask a gas station/car inspection employee if they can do me a favor with their long-handled sticker removal tool.

Date: 2009-07-23 02:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rainbow-spork.livejournal.com
Huh, Cambridge made that same sticker location change this year. I didn't realise that Somerville had as well. I get why they did it, but yeah, it's gonna be a pain next year.

Date: 2009-07-23 04:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dougo.livejournal.com
If we're making a list of undocumented ticketable offenses: you can't use a visitor permit if you also have an expired sticker.

Date: 2009-07-23 05:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pierceheart.livejournal.com
Wait, are you saying that your VISITOR can't use the visitor permit, or that you, as a resident with an expired residential sricker, can't use the visitor pass?

Because if it's the latter, that's WELL documented - residents are not authorized to use visitor passes.

Date: 2009-07-23 01:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dougo.livejournal.com
I am a former resident, with an expired sticker, and I can't use a current resident's visitor permit unless I remove the old sticker.

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