[identity profile] plumtreeblossom.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] davis_square
[excerpt] Patrolman John Thermidor reported at least 25-30 teenagers in the apartment, as well as people on the stairs leading up to the second floor. He asked to talk to an adult, but there was no response from anyone.

A few minutes later, a man came down from the second floor and identified himself as Jonathan Monsarrat, 41, the resident and host of the party, according to the report. Thermidor told him to inform his guests that the party was over and they have to leave, but Monsarrat allegedly became argumentative and refused to comply. He assured Thermidor that there was no alcohol at the party. According to the report, the officer informed him that he had seen teenagers with beer bottles.[/excerpt]

Read on.....
http://www.wickedlocal.com/somerville/news/x1878079036/Somerville-Police-bust-underage-drinking-party-on-Summer-Street

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Date: 2010-02-04 02:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emcicle.livejournal.com
it would be so appropriate, though. :)

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I read the whole article and I rescind my ugh and upgrade to a "How the fuck does this man keep pulling shit like this?"
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OMG JONMON?!!!

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And let's not forget that somehow, somehow, this man had an "art installation" in both Davis and Harvard sq wherein he answered personal questions about peoples' lives. I can think of no finer influence on the public, truly.
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That's the perfect icon for this.
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Date: 2010-02-04 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenlily.livejournal.com
Or possibly a biohazard symbol. Apparently proximity to jonmon destroys brain cells.
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I don't understand why you're cross-posting this. Could you explain, please?

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Date: 2010-02-04 03:19 pm (UTC)
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Holy crap. He lives 8 blocks from my old apartment. Suddenly, I'm very glad to have moved.

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Date: 2010-02-04 03:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thespian.livejournal.com
dude, it's somerville. we're almost ALL within 8 blocks of each other here ;-)

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I'm not surprised. Why? I've had the misfortune of knowing him for 10 years before his MANY attempts at reinvention to meet women. (I was friends with his ex-wife #2 before she moved.)
Kind of pathetic, actually.
I'm glad he stopped going to Diesel when he realized that the women who attend were smart, mature, and uninterested in him.
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Date: 2010-02-04 04:00 pm (UTC)
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Modern day witch hunting, I see.
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Date: 2010-02-04 04:14 pm (UTC)
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I guess one of us should tell the Journal reporter that this is the same guy who had the 'wheel' art installation in Davis and Harvard Squares (and, earlier, on Elm Street).

Edit: in fact, the same reporter wrote Wheel Answers gets one last spin this weekend, last April, but somehow didn't connect the dots this week.
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Raise your hand if you're surprised that creepy Jonny acted like a creep, lied to the cops, and was trying to get kids liquored up.

No? Nobody? Me either.

Fuck. I'm just glad this piece of shit got caught. I hope they give it to him with both barrels.
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Date: 2010-02-04 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
From his Wheel Questions Blog, posted last Wednesday:
I'm holding a party Friday in the Boston area. RSVP to johnny@wheelquestions.org and say a little about yourself for the location.
He posted another blog entry on Sunday, so either the jail has wi-fi, or he's already out on bail.
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From: [identity profile] craigindaville.livejournal.com
"...say a little about yourself..."? Like what- age and cup size?

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I think the community should impose a moratorium on more Jonmon comments.

He might need a jury...

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(frozen) Who + How?

Date: 2010-02-04 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serious-noir.livejournal.com
Who is this person and how did he manage to build up such rancor? I did see the wheel thing and thought it was pretty weak but so many of the comments are WAY beyond this. Did he hog a booth at Diesel or something? ;-)

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From: [identity profile] firstfrost.livejournal.com
He's 41, and he's been here off and on since he was a freshman. People have had a lot of opportunities to interact with him over those years. When those interactions include restraining order violations, breaking into computer accounts, harassment, advertising kinky parties to students, and so on... some people you just stop giving the benefit of the doubt to.
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(frozen) Re: Turil's comments

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From: [identity profile] balsamicdragon.livejournal.com
So, lemme see if I have this straight:

You said: "When I was 17 I had a boyfriend who was 24. And I had the opportunity to drink alcohol and smoke pot (though I didn't, because I didn't want to). . . . Thankfully I at least had parents who weren't so puritanical."

and then you said: "If my children felt that hanging around with older guys who offer them alcohol is their best option, then I'm seriously being a shitty parent and I need help."

If you can't keep your logic straight between two responses to the same post, I would seriously reconsider your position.

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Date: 2010-02-05 02:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ratatosk.livejournal.com
At the risk of getting the Internet all over me (eww!), I'm intrigued enough to take a stab at this one, because there is something really weird about it to my ears. Let's see how I do:


I think in the first statement [livejournal.com profile] turil was focusing more on the nature of teenagers and childhood, and questioning how we deal with age. The second was more specific to jonmon: in this case, the "older guy offering alcohol" is 41, not 24, and while I might have missed something in that gigantic thread, I don't read turil's comments as saying he was offering these teenagers anything in any sort of responsible manner, or that anything he did was actually good for them. Comparing jonmon to her boyfriend from years ago surely makes no sense to her, and it probably shouldn't -- jonmon has a long history of being a very special case, and many of us unfortunately know that through personal experiences.

My initial impression -- and I admit I have not been reading all the comments on every entry in this community everywhere -- is that turil seems to have a lot of past history here, and a lot of her opinions (if I understand them correctly), would sound a lot more normal to davis_square readers if they were coming from nearly anyone else. Consider these in isolation and try to think of who else might believe them:

- We should try to see the good in others.
- Being mean is always bad.
- When people on the Internet "pile on", it is always creepy to watch (especially if you've met them in person and they behaved differently then?).
- Jonmon is a tragic figure.
- When someone is reviled in their community, it's disingenuous to point solely to their economic status and other demographic factors when determining what their "status" is (especially status within the community, which might be the only meaningful reference point).
- Our society makes childhood longer than it should, and that has various undesirable effects.
- Talking about teenagers (let alone children in general) and sex (or alcohol or drugs) is a conversational third rail in our culture, even for those of us who were recently teenagers.

You can argue any of these points passionately either way, but none of them are particularly novel or unique to turil. Also I might be wrong about what everyone on all sides actually believes here, and I might have missed lots of crazy stuff I skimmed, disclaimer, disclaimer, etc.. :P

Okay, I'm going to go wipe -- no, scrub -- the Int0rnet from my hands and wait impatiently for the musical. No, seriously, I think it cries out for some sort of dramatization. Based on what I read above, I think [livejournal.com profile] plumtreeblossom and [livejournal.com profile] turil should each write their own musical versions of it.

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Epic shrug. He got caught giving kids alcohol and being stupid, and now he'll face the might of the state power.

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Date: 2010-02-04 10:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] genesayssitdown.livejournal.com
GODDAMN i missed out on all of this and then posted it on b0st0n as if i was the first to hear about it. GODDAMN

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From: [identity profile] bombardiette.livejournal.com
Slackah. It's even been up on [livejournal.com profile] davis_snark for like..everrrr...

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This post has seriously made my day.

(frozen) Seriously.

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Date: 2010-02-05 04:43 am (UTC)
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This is post #270. Just curious, what's the record for most replies around here?

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Date: 2010-02-05 05:06 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
I don't know, but we've now beaten what I think was the previous contender, the Hooters For Hair post.

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Haven't read all the comments and replies but enough to get s sense of things.

I'm curious - show of hands/posts: how many people commenting have any sort of actual first hand experience of this 'jonmon' person? That's as compared to "internet experience" of him or the various news accounts of him - or I suppose that encyclopedia dramatica entry (he sure has made some snarky enemies.

I have no experience of or opinion on this fellow - aside from having seen that 'art' thing he did - but so much of this heated back and forth begs the question: have any of the commenters actually even met him or is this just mostly the sort of 'snark in the water' type behavior that is common here on DS?
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Yes, a number of the commenters know him. I know him. The commenter who said they'd known him for 10 years, the commenter who said a friend lived next door. At least a handful that *I* know know him, and I don't know most of the people posting here.

I think it's kind of sweet that you assume it must be some sort of contagious internet meme, though. :)
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I cannot go away for a couple of days that all the fun stuff happens!!!
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WTF? A bunch of people here claiming to be me?
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