[identity profile] miss-chance.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] davis_square
Does anyone know what happened at the zoning board meeting for the Arts at the Armory?

Someone posted that question on their Facebook wall and all the venue replied is that the poster should "email the executive director if you're interested." That doesn't sound promising... it also doesn't seem like a good way to communicate with your community, unless they're legally constrained from talking about it. I feel like if you do a big "come support us" public appeal, you should really tell people whatever you can, even if it's just that an answer is pending.

Did anyone from here go? Did they hear the appeal? Give an answer?

thanks!

Date: 2012-09-09 04:15 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
The Zoning Board did not make any decision at the September 5 meeting. They left the comment period open and will continue consideration of it at the next meeting, which is September 19. I believe they will take more public testimony at that meeting. If you support the Armory, please come and speak there.

I was disappointed that Aldermen-at-Large White and Sullivan, who are supposed to represent the interests of the whole city, argued against giving the Armory extended hours.
Edited Date: 2012-09-09 04:35 am (UTC)

Date: 2012-09-09 04:45 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
I'd say go ahead and drum up support anyway, please!

Date: 2012-09-09 01:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emcicle.livejournal.com
what reasons did the aldermen-at-large give for being against it?

Date: 2012-09-09 01:12 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
They seemed to side with the annoyed neighbors. That's reasonable for a ward alderman but not for an alderman-at-large.

Date: 2012-09-09 06:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalimba21.livejournal.com
It would be difficult to convey what happened in just a few words. Politicians spoke with varying opinions, lots of supporters spoke and the usual group of angry neighbors. Comments were limited to 2 minutes.

The meeting was video recorded by scat so hopefully it will be available soon.
Also the city website posts agendas and minutes, but the minutes aren't up yet.
http://www.somervillema.gov/event-meetings/50255?event-title=Zoning+Board+of+Appeals+Hearing

Letters and email seem to matter. Email can be sent c/o Dawn Pereira at
dpereira@somervillema.gov

Letters can be mailed c/o Dawn Pereira at
Zoning Board of Appeals
93 Highland Ave. S'ville, Ma. 02143.

There's also an online form that looks easy with a drop down choice for Zoning board of appeals at
http://www.somervillema.gov/contact-us

I pulled all that stuff off the city website. It seems to be accurate but if someone knows more, please add.

Date: 2012-09-09 12:36 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
Comments were limited to 2 minutes.

Except that the most malcontent NIMBY neighbor, John Sullivan, was allowed to ramble on for what seemed like at least 10 minutes. I don't understand why he wasn't subject to the time limit that everyone else tried to obey.
Edited Date: 2012-09-09 12:36 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-09-09 01:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emcicle.livejournal.com
that's really annoying that they would give more time to one person....

Date: 2012-09-09 02:14 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
When the next four or five people on the list were called, they did not appear, and John Sullivan said that he had spoken for them too. I find that a bit irregular.

Date: 2012-09-10 01:47 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
I don't think so.

Date: 2012-09-10 09:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icecreamempress.livejournal.com
No. Sullivan (which is also my name) is an incredibly common surname.

Date: 2012-09-10 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icecreamempress.livejournal.com
I should say "not as far as I know" because they could, I suppose, be cousins. Heck, they could both be my cousins and I wouldn't know it.

Date: 2012-09-09 12:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] georgy.livejournal.com
Just sent an email to the aldermen-at-large:

aldermansullivan@aol.com (AOL? Really?)
william.a.white@verizon.net

I also send a similar message to the Zoning Board of Appeals via the city's website.
Edited Date: 2012-09-09 12:48 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-09-09 11:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] comacentral (from livejournal.com)
Just so you are all aware there is also is an issue brewing around the right of the SCAT producer to air the footage of the Public Meeting. It seems SCAT is buckling to pressure brought by people who did not want to the meeting videoed. And I thought transparency in a Democracy was a good thing. Foolish me.

Date: 2012-09-10 12:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beinneighe.livejournal.com
what are the grounds for *not* airing a public meeting?

Date: 2012-09-10 01:48 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
This was a public meeting. Who doesn't want the tape aired? I'm pretty sure I heard an announcement at the beginning of the meeting that SCAT was taping it.

Date: 2012-09-10 01:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] comacentral (from livejournal.com)
Yep. The opposition to Arts At the Armory feels like the producer had an agenda. It's totally ridiculous. I would suggest that you call SCAT to complain.

Date: 2012-09-10 04:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fefie.livejournal.com
"The opposition to Arts At the Armory feels like the producer had an agenda. "

A bit like the pot calling the kettle black. The opposition has been against the Armory since 2004, and have never wavered in their mission to take every opportunity to derail it (before it opened) and shut it down (after it opened).

Date: 2012-09-11 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] z-wah.livejournal.com
The reason for concern about the producer is that the same individual does programming for Arts at the Armory
and spoke at recent neighborhood meeting in favor of moving forward with the proposed changes. If the ZBA
hearing is being shown in entirety it should eliminate any issue over potential bias that an edited version might suggest.

Another concern was that several local individuals are simply leery of having their names and addresses floating
around on the internet. The chairman made an announcement about the taping and those who shared that concern
did not speak.

In general, it is a clearly volatile issue that has unfortunately devolved into an "us vs. them" mentality.
There are two sides to every story and in fairness both deserve to be aired. That is the purpose of
the hearing. There is always room for discussion if opposing positions are open and willing to talk.
If not, communication and credibility will falter and the situation will deteriorate into a neighborhood feud.
It's hard to believe that anyone wants that.

Date: 2012-09-10 12:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] comacentral (from livejournal.com)
That the producer did not represent SCAT even though they gave her permission & equipment to shoot it. Go figure. The opposition called a politically connected person in Somerville who then called SCAT's Executive Director who in turn told the Producer that she could be personally liable if SCAT aired the meeting.

Date: 2012-09-10 01:49 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
There was no privacy issue here. The person who was taping for SCAT made an announcement at the beginning of the meeting.

Date: 2012-09-10 02:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] comacentral (from livejournal.com)
Tell that to SCAT. They are throwing her under the bus.

Date: 2012-09-10 04:18 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
I just now sent this to various e-mail addresses at both SCATV and the Armory:

"Hi. Someone from SCATV taped the last Zoning Board of Appeals hearing. Do you know when this will be aired, and if it will also be available online? Thanks."

Date: 2012-09-10 04:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] comacentral (from livejournal.com)
Good. Please keep us updated on their response.

Date: 2012-09-10 04:34 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
I got a reply from SCAT's Executive Director, Wendy Blom, saying:
A member of SCATV did videotape the meeting as a volunteer producer. It is her program, and I know she is editing it now. Not sure when it will be done. I will forward your email to her so she can let you know. Her name is Jenner Barrington-Ward.

Date: 2012-09-10 05:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] comacentral (from livejournal.com)
I got the message too and since my name is out there I will make full disclosure that I am Jenner. The issue here is that Ms. Bloom is saying that I had no right to say I was shooting the meeting for SCAT and that if I aired it I would be personally liable. I did not misrepresent myself and I shot the show with the full knowledge and consent of SCAT. Since all footage shot with SCAT's equipment must be aired on SCAT it is de facto SCAT programming. I shot the show in the name of transparency, period. Someone put pressure on her and she on me.

I will be airing the show uncut and streaming it online.

Date: 2012-09-10 05:39 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
I got this from Wendy Blom, who told me I could post it here. At this point I have no idea who is correct, but I would definitely like to see the final-cut TV show, whenever it is ready.

--------------------

Hello Ron and others. SCATV remains a free speech venue. Our member producers may take out our equipment in order to produce any program they like for channel 3. Our policies clearly state that the producers take full responsibility for the content of their shows, and if there is a question from the public about a program on our channel, we refer them to the producer. That is what occurred in this situation, and the member clearly understood that policy. If there is a copyright issue, or any other legal issue with the content of a program, it is the producer's responsibility. This is an essential feature of any public access television station. Otherwise we could not operate as a free speech venue.

SCATV staff does sometimes produce programs, such as the Alderman Debate, Talking About Somerville, etc., and in those cases SCATV takes responsibility for the program. That was not the case for the ZBA Hearing.

I hope that answers you questions about our operations.
Thank you.
Wendy Blom

Date: 2012-09-10 05:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] comacentral (from livejournal.com)
I got a reply too and SCAT is now backing me. To avoid any further issues I will be posting the video uncut without any edits. I will post here when I have done so.

Date: 2012-09-10 06:01 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
Thanks. I suggest that you make a new top-level post when the video is available, because in general people don't read new comments to LJ posts that are more than a few days old.

Date: 2012-09-10 09:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icecreamempress.livejournal.com
Thanks, and I applaud you for pushing back against the pressure. It is ridiculous for them not to air a public meeting.

Date: 2012-09-10 09:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] comacentral (from livejournal.com)
Ridiculous & cowardly. But I promise you I will have it up in all it's rough unedited glory for all to see. And I would like all who contact SCAT too. This is for Somerville.

Date: 2012-09-11 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tracey-stark.livejournal.com
Hi All--not sure about the Facebook listing because I can't find one that says that, but here goes:

The meeting went quite late and there really wasn't a resolution. Adam Dash gave our case for why we need to have later hours etc. to be financially viable. The Planning Commission weighed in, supporting us but also listing a number of concessions that we needed to make for the well-being of the city and of the neighborhood. For instance, they requested that we are ask that only Friday and Saturday be listed as week-end nights rather than Thursday, Friday and Saturday. They also discussed a number of solutions that we arrived at during our two prior community meetings (e.g. posting signs telling our patrons to respect our guests, etc.). State Representative Denise Provist emphasized her support of the Arts at the Armory in general, as did District 5 Alderman and the at large Aldermen. However, most called for further negotiation and perhaps mediation with those neighbors who still have concerns.

The reactions from the Somerville community were mixed: some neighbors where quite opposed to changes in our operating structure, and largely re-iterated concerns from the two community meetings we held in August. Other neighbors, including abutters, argued that they appreciated our presence here and wanted to allow for the changes that would make us a fiscally viable organization.

The meeting was taped for SCAT TV and will be up shortly. Some neighbors had concerns with the taping, but the head of the Commission, Herbert Foster, told the assembled body that they would be taped for television. Public hearings are fequently recorded and uploaded by local cable access channels. I would imagine that the next meeting will also be taped.

If people want the full details of the meeting I suggest you look at the tape. I can post a link as soon as they send it to me.

The next meeting is next Wednesday at City Hall. The meeting is scheduled for 6 pm. I am not sure where we are on the agenda, but to be safe people should plan to be there at 6pm when the session starts.

Date: 2012-09-12 01:59 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
This was the Facebook post in question. I suggest that you post the same thing on Arts at the Armory's Facebook page that you have posted here on LiveJournal.

Date: 2012-09-11 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tracey-stark.livejournal.com
Hi All--I thought I posted a comment, but I'm am still getting the swing of this site.

The meeting went pretty much as posted below. The Planning committee encouraged the changes we requested, while asking that we concede on a many points, most of which we brought up in our August community meetings. We have agreed to these requests, and have further agreed to limited the "week-end" hours to Friday and Saturday rather than Thursday, Friday, and Saturday.

State Represative Provist and the Aldermen present largely supported the Arts at the Armory in theory, but didn't make specific recommendations. Most asked that we engage in some kind of mediation with the people who oppose granting the changes to operating protocols.

The reactions from those at the meeting were mixed: some neighbors expressed concerns mostly about noise and parking. Others, including some abutters, said that they support the Arts at the Armory's mission, and would like to see the proposed changes go through so that we can continue to exist in the neighborhood.

At the end of the hearing, our lawyer, Adam Dash, reiterated that we are in financial trouble due to the restictions on our activites and that time is of the essence for our survival.

If people want more specific details, I suggest they go to the SCAT tv posting of the public hearing. The next one is scheduled for Sept 19, 6pm at City Hall. I encourage all concerned citizens to attend and have their voices be heard.

Tracey Stark--Executive Director of the Center for Arts at the Armory.

Date: 2012-09-12 01:57 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
You did successfully post a comment earlier. It is directly above this one. Since this one is not really a duplicate, I'll leave it here as well.

Please post the URL of the SCAT video as soon as it is available.

I do hope people will turn out, and write letters, in support of your organization.
Edited Date: 2012-09-12 02:01 am (UTC)

Date: 2012-09-12 01:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jennifer lawrence (from livejournal.com)
Hi folks!

Full disclosure - I work for Arts at the Armory. This is a GREAT discussion and thank you for having it. Also - THANK YOU for your support of Arts at the Armory. I just want to clarify so that folks understand that Arts at the Armory did not put anything in front the ZBA - The owners of 191 Highland Avenue did. Arts at the Armory is a non-profit tenant of the building (there are 13 tenants total). So please continue to support our great programming, but please help us to spread the word that Arts at the Armory is one tenant of 191 Highland Avenue, not "The Armory" or the owners.

Thanks!

Jen Lawrence

Date: 2012-09-12 03:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bostonartist.livejournal.com
Yes, this is confusing. The owners put forth the proposed changes before the ZBA for the benefit of "Arts at the Armory", correct?

What is the relationship between Arts and the Armory and the owners? Does it go beyond a traditional tenant / landlord relationship?

Edited Date: 2012-09-12 03:19 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-09-12 06:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tracey-stark.livejournal.com
Hi All--

The Center for the Arts at the Armory is a tenant of 191 Highland Ave. The owners of the building have petitioned the city to amend the conditions limiting our ability of the tenents of the building to fulfill their missions. While all of the changes that owners are appealing will benefit our non-profit center, the other tenants in the building, such as Actor's Shakespeare Project and Yesterday's Music will also benefit by being able to extend their hours of operation. Further, if our Center cannot be financially viable the owners may have to sell the building, thereby also displacing all of the non-profits housed in the building. I hope this helps clarify things.

Date: 2012-09-12 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
Thanks. I did not think Actors' Shakespeare Project or Yesterday Music had performances in their office spaces (though ASP has used the main drill hall in the past), so I don't quite understand how extending the performance hours affects them.
Edited Date: 2012-09-12 06:37 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-09-12 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tracey-stark.livejournal.com
Hi Ron and All--

The other tenants in the building cannot have any activies until after 8am or after 10 or 11 pm depending on the day of the week. That means no early morning yoga or late evening Folk Archieve events, for instance. Also, without a kitchen we cannot provide cooked food for any of the activities for other tenants.

Date: 2012-09-12 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
Thanks. When I read the ZBA application, it sounded like the hours restrictions applied only to the cafe and the drill hall, and not to (for example) the Folk Music Archive space below.

Date: 2012-09-12 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] comacentral (from livejournal.com)
The video of the meeting has been submitted for broadcast to day. Due to all of the controversy surrounding this issue I have presented it unedited & uncut; in all of it's 2:23 minute glory. I will post the link here when it is posted online.

Date: 2012-09-12 07:43 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ron_newman
It's reasonable for you to post both the raw footage and your final-cut version, if you'd like.

Date: 2012-09-12 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] comacentral (from livejournal.com)
As I stated in my previous comment I have submitted the full meeting uncut & unedited. I do not anticipate making any further versions.

Date: 2012-09-14 02:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] z-wah.livejournal.com
There are many artists in the Somerville area and artists know there is always a process in creative endeavor. One rarely gets the golden egg first time out, and often it takes years to manifest. If the vision is true, persistence and flexibility and patience are important.

As one would expect, everyone is spinning the ZBA proceedings slightly to the benefit of their own position. That is natural enough, but this is
not strictly a numbers game. For Arts at the Armory to be considered a real community project, the nearest neighbors need to be a part of it.
Some have as many as three generations of family in their homes and substantial investment in their property. Some have school aged children.
Of course they are concerned, even fearful. Venting, as many from both sides have, is OK, even necessary to move forward. But postures as well as promises are easy. What is more difficult is creating an atmosphere that is mutually satisfying and where everyone feels acknowledged and respected. Is it possible? Yes. What is required is a high order of communication and trust, including especially careful listening from all parties.

Consider this: It could become a work of art. Wouldn't that be amazing?

Date: 2012-09-14 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tracey-stark.livejournal.com
Hi _wah. Thank you for all of your thoughtful ideas! Would you be interested in getting together over coffee (or a glass of wine)?

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