Constant Plane Noise This Morning

[amy-s1.livejournal.com]

Let me say this first before you call me a whiner - watch the planes on this map for this morning of Friday 12/11: http://www4.passur.com/bos.html

You can replay any point in time with the menu bar at the top, you can even speed it up to 10X. Or you can watch "live" with a 10 minute delay.

Now, if those green planes dont go right over where you live, dont call the rest of us whiners. If they do go right over you, you know what I am talking about. My 5 month old daughter is constantly woken up by these planes and they can rattle the house.

Watch the flow of the planes coming off of runway 33L (the long one that points straight at Chelsea). The vast majority of them bank left and come straight over Davis Square almost every time. How about a little distribution over Harvard Sq, West Cambridge, etc?? Not to mention winds this morning are from the W/SW, not the Northwest.

Now, lets log complaints here: http://www.massport.com/logan/airpo_noise_compl.html

Comments

[oneagain.livejournal.com]

People have all kinds of sensitivities to noise. The people who say "get over it" sadly don't necessarily understand that physiology DOES NOT ALWAYS WORK THAT WAY, TRULY, IT DOESN"T. That said, I don't know what can be done about it, especially if the above poster is correct in that the planes *are* already going over Harvard Square (and West Cambridge, as well, for all we know)?

I sleep with earplugs and an eye mask, on top of memory foam, which is probably a bit shock-absorbing, and take light sleep meds with occasionally something stronger. I also have light-blocking shades. My bedroom is on the side of the house with the busy street and two bus lines that stop outside my door (which woke me up pretty constantly when I first moved here, particularly when they announce the bus number and where it's going), and I sometimes had a hard time sleeping before I lived here, but these things eventually helped. Not that I would suggest medicating her right now, but perhaps ear plugs might help, at least for the time being? Or putting on some soothing music on repeat? Sometimes chamomile tea helps, too. I am wondering if she might eventually adapt if a bit more attention/soothing is applied now--I did, but that doesn't mean she will (here's hoping).

[koshmom.livejournal.com]

If you physically can't sleep because you live too close to plane/bus/road noise, then perhaps you might want to consider moving to where there is none of the above. However, if you insist on living in a crowded metro area, then you have nothing to complain about, because you chose your living conditions. If you say you can't live elsewhere because there's no work, well, you selected that career. If you like your standard of living, there's plenty of people who like their standard of living and they don't deal with plane/bus/road noise. Lots of people live in the 'burbs or further out.

It's your choice. Complaining that you're stuck when you chose your life isn't my issue, it's yours.

[oneagain.livejournal.com]

Sorry, that argument does not entirely fly (pun not intended, but greatly enjoyed). Not that I don't appreciate it, especially since I know those rules apply to you somewhat, you being white, very educated, almost unusually empowered, especially for a woman (you might forget that, being surrounded by a number of other intelligent,empowered woman) and perhaps haveing a string of options that not everyone else has. Doesn't mean it applies to everyone. And btw, not everyone selects their career. Sometimes they do what they are called to or what they are most talented at, depending on their skills, and have to go where the work is available, especially in these times. And sometimes folks deal with health issues/disabilities, and have to be close to familial support, wherever that might be.

[koshmom.livejournal.com]

I think you should look at thetathx1138's post, a few below this one. Notice the boxes that say "This is different!" "IS NOT!" "IS TOO!"

That's where we are. You are in America. You DO choose your lot in life. If your choice is to "do what you are called to do" then you can do that in many different places, many different cities. If you have a health issue/disability, that doesn't mean you are forced to live on a street where you can't sleep. Every city/town has facilities that aid people in that situation. And "close to familial support"? MOVE ONE STREET AWAY. Now, if you're a quadrapaligic in a coma, perhaps you don't have much of a say, but if you are at all mobile and living at least mostly on your own, you don't need to live that close that you hear the bus's announcements of stops. You just choose not to move and choose to complain. I choose to respond to you.

And you think I live a guilded life? Hah! think again. My father had a wife, a 1-year old baby, and another (me) on the way, had just put a down payment on a house and got laid off. He had to move from being a junior sales person making a very mediocre salary, barely getting along, to being a grade school custodian, pouring sawdust on children's vomit in the public school hallways. He was the sole breadwinner until my mom started work when I was in the 4th grade as a tailor in a local clothing store for enough money to feed our little family. I knew noone in the "business world" yet it was the only career I was apparently cut out for. Since I had no experience or anyone to ask about how the business world works, I got laid off/canned/lost business-political battles all over the place. Don't go telling me that I have options that you don't have...There is NO advantage to being a woman in today's world. The only advantage is if you are willing to sacrifice your morals and self-respect to kow-tow to some idiotic boss. Which I didn't do, and thus got laid off/canned/etc. What options do I have that others don't? Here's the "option" I always had to live by: "Deal". or "Don't deal". and "Don't deal" usually had others look at me and say "oh, you can deal" and ignore me, thus I had to Deal even if I couldn't.

yup

[grateful1311.livejournal.com]

love the second paragraph. couldn't agree more =)

Re: yup

[oneagain.livejournal.com]

I guess you didn't throroughly read the comment, either.

[oneagain.livejournal.com]

You just choose not to move and choose to complain

I like where I live, and I wasn't complaining, sorry you heard that. I was describing the problem I had, some of the sources of it, and what I did to deal with it. Where was the complaining in that? I was making suggestions that might prove useful to the op's daughter.

Guilded life? No, I don't believe I said that. I said you are unusually empowered for a woman--single women who own their own single family house, particularly in this area, are still the minority. I don't think it is an advantage to be a woman, either; I said you were unusually empowered *especially* for a woman, since I think being a woman is generally an economic *dis*advantage. I am now wondering how closely you read what I wrote.

thus I had to Deal even if I couldn't.

If you think that is something that everyone can do in every situation, you are sadly mistaken. I'm sorry it was painful for you, and I am sorry you were ignored. I don't like ignoring people when they ask for help, which is why I made the suggestions that you criticized in the first place.

[amy-s1.livejournal.com]

"If you physically can't sleep because you live too close to plane/bus/road noise, then perhaps you might want to consider moving to where there is none of the above. "


The problem is, there isn't anywhere else in Boston to live that is cool where I can have a house and a yard. This is, in my opinion, the only cool urban neighborhood in Boston. I've lived all over - Sydney, San Fran, NYC, and Amsterdam and got kinda spoiled to the point where the rest of Boston just looks so lame. and NO I CANT MOVE I need to stay in Boston for work and family reasons, and my single family house with a yard is on a very quiet tree lined street a few block from Porter and Davis. No road noise, no buses. I just hate the planes that increased significantly AFTER I moved here.