Constant Plane Noise This Morning

[amy-s1.livejournal.com]

Let me say this first before you call me a whiner - watch the planes on this map for this morning of Friday 12/11: http://www4.passur.com/bos.html

You can replay any point in time with the menu bar at the top, you can even speed it up to 10X. Or you can watch "live" with a 10 minute delay.

Now, if those green planes dont go right over where you live, dont call the rest of us whiners. If they do go right over you, you know what I am talking about. My 5 month old daughter is constantly woken up by these planes and they can rattle the house.

Watch the flow of the planes coming off of runway 33L (the long one that points straight at Chelsea). The vast majority of them bank left and come straight over Davis Square almost every time. How about a little distribution over Harvard Sq, West Cambridge, etc?? Not to mention winds this morning are from the W/SW, not the Northwest.

Now, lets log complaints here: http://www.massport.com/logan/airpo_noise_compl.html

Comments

[zenala.livejournal.com]

In my experience, the planes that go over Davis also go over Harvard.

And, yes, the planes go over my house. I don't care.

[amy-s1.livejournal.com]

Nope check the map they dont go over harvard

[kpht.livejournal.com]

so move?

[amy-s1.livejournal.com]

Moving is an option to consider but i love where I live except for this. There arent many other areas around here I would want to live.

The runway is only supposed to be used during NW winds but that is not the case.

[genesayssitdown.livejournal.com]

[townie]having grown up in boston, i'm glad to see other areas having to suffer through what i experienced growing up! i think it's ridiculous that they only, just now, have started redistributing the airplane noise wealth into other regions of the greater boston area! this is EXACTLY what should be happening when you live so close to an airport![/townie]

(i edited this because lj got rid of my townie tags, which takes away the entire character of what i wrote!)

[justjess.livejournal.com]

Agreed. I live right by Logan and I'm sick of everyone complaining about this.

[oneagain.livejournal.com]

People have all kinds of sensitivities to noise. The people who say "get over it" sadly don't necessarily understand that physiology DOES NOT ALWAYS WORK THAT WAY, TRULY, IT DOESN"T. That said, I don't know what can be done about it, especially if the above poster is correct in that the planes *are* already going over Harvard Square (and West Cambridge, as well, for all we know)?

I sleep with earplugs and an eye mask, on top of memory foam, which is probably a bit shock-absorbing, and take light sleep meds with occasionally something stronger. I also have light-blocking shades. My bedroom is on the side of the house with the busy street and two bus lines that stop outside my door (which woke me up pretty constantly when I first moved here, particularly when they announce the bus number and where it's going), and I sometimes had a hard time sleeping before I lived here, but these things eventually helped. Not that I would suggest medicating her right now, but perhaps ear plugs might help, at least for the time being? Or putting on some soothing music on repeat? Sometimes chamomile tea helps, too. I am wondering if she might eventually adapt if a bit more attention/soothing is applied now--I did, but that doesn't mean she will (here's hoping).

[koshmom.livejournal.com]

If you physically can't sleep because you live too close to plane/bus/road noise, then perhaps you might want to consider moving to where there is none of the above. However, if you insist on living in a crowded metro area, then you have nothing to complain about, because you chose your living conditions. If you say you can't live elsewhere because there's no work, well, you selected that career. If you like your standard of living, there's plenty of people who like their standard of living and they don't deal with plane/bus/road noise. Lots of people live in the 'burbs or further out.

It's your choice. Complaining that you're stuck when you chose your life isn't my issue, it's yours.

[smoterh.livejournal.com]

complaint filed. thanks for bringing this up.

[spatch]

The thirty-minute stretch between 7:00 and 7:30 am shows a heck of a lot of takeoffs curving over Davis. It's quite a number for a morning, and a much better concrete display of data than "I heard like three go by or something and it was REALLY LOUD."

That said, didja really have to go on the defensive that much? The link and the display could've stood on their own without any of that qualification. The disclaimers all over are just inviting snark.

[amy-s1.livejournal.com]

Ok good point. But every time this issue gets posted, the poster gets called a whiner :-)

[surrealestate.livejournal.com]

Unfortunately, I think the responses when this issue is brought up justify the disclaimers, and some of the obnoxious comments already posted make the point, too. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't have been any better without 'em.

I don't find that map useful, though, since I can't figure out how to zoom in on the neighborhood, and the scale of the airplanes is too big for street granularity as it is.

[genesayssitdown.livejournal.com]

that map is pretty neat!

Time to roll out the classic

[thetathx1138.livejournal.com]

(http://www.flickr.com/photos/16889258@N03/3761578967/)

I should make this into a T-shirt.

Re: Time to roll out the classic

[tamalinn.livejournal.com]

srsly.

[plumtreeblossom.livejournal.com]

Yes you totally should! We could give the proceeds to local charity and thus appear to be a group of decent human beings underneath it all. ;-)

Re: Time to roll out the classic

[arrowintwolakes.livejournal.com]

But THIS is DIFFERENT!

Re: Time to roll out the classic

[billharnois.livejournal.com]

wow, someone spent a lot of time on this. I really wanted this to be funny, but it's not.

Re: Time to roll out the classic

[nvidia99999.livejournal.com]

You could also tattoo it on your forehead! :)

Re: Time to roll out the classic

[diego001.livejournal.com]

Forty comments of petwank.

[somertricky.livejournal.com]

Couple of things:

a) I suspect it may be more important (comfortable, whatever) for planes to land into the wind than take off. Particularly with such a stiff breeze like today, I think you'd want to avoid a crosswind landing. Perhaps that is why the planes are landing to the west, and taking off over Somerville? I would think you'd try to avoid takeoffs and landings on the same runway.

b) Are pilots flying on visual cues? You could make an argument the planes are changing course and (roughly) following the Mystic River as it arcs towards the west. However IANAP, so WTFDIK?

[ukelele.livejournal.com]

I giggle at your unfamiliar, yet instantly clear, acronyms.

[junesrose.livejournal.com]

Sweetheart, as a mom of a 5 month old (you, not me), and having raised 3 kids (me, not you... and almost grown), I hear your pain. It sucks when noise wakes up the baby.

However, I grew up in Davis square, and it's been like that since forever. There are good days, and bad days.

Think of it this way, I now live in the 'burbs, 50 miles away, no ariplane noise. Good, huh? But some of my neighbors have dogs that don't shut up all night.

Gotta try to make lemonade when you can. Good luck with that.

[kennygster.livejournal.com]

The noise yesterday morning was brutal and it has actually been pretty bad the last few days. Complaint filed.

[hikermtnbiker.livejournal.com]

The cold dry air also makes it worse.

[billharnois.livejournal.com]

what's the latest on the lawsuit? I feel like that's been pending for like 4 years.

[thetathx1138.livejournal.com]

That flowchart was the official ruling.

[eeyorecol.livejournal.com]

Perhaps a white noise machine would help your 5 month old sleep better? We have upstairs neighbors who leave for work at about 5am, and my daughter will sleep through that (and a lot more sounds) with white noise...

Earplugs work too.

[nvidia99999.livejournal.com]

And so do radiation suits, if the nearby nuclear plant leaks.