Constant Plane Noise This Morning

[amy-s1.livejournal.com]

Let me say this first before you call me a whiner - watch the planes on this map for this morning of Friday 12/11: http://www4.passur.com/bos.html

You can replay any point in time with the menu bar at the top, you can even speed it up to 10X. Or you can watch "live" with a 10 minute delay.

Now, if those green planes dont go right over where you live, dont call the rest of us whiners. If they do go right over you, you know what I am talking about. My 5 month old daughter is constantly woken up by these planes and they can rattle the house.

Watch the flow of the planes coming off of runway 33L (the long one that points straight at Chelsea). The vast majority of them bank left and come straight over Davis Square almost every time. How about a little distribution over Harvard Sq, West Cambridge, etc?? Not to mention winds this morning are from the W/SW, not the Northwest.

Now, lets log complaints here: http://www.massport.com/logan/airpo_noise_compl.html

Comments

[clevernonsense.livejournal.com]

watching for a bit at around 6am I saw two planes go right over harvard and more along the edge of davis. But, it's really boring overall so I'm not about to survey :P

also, you live near an airport fyi. i'm not sure what you expect.

[amy-s1.livejournal.com]

I know I live near an airport, but this issue has alot of history. When the new runway was built it was supposed to be used around 6% of the time, only during northwest winds. The reality is that it is used much more often than it should be. Before this runway, there were hardly any planes here.

Another thing to consider is that Somerville homes were not soundproofed like the ones near the original flight paths, like in Chelsea and East Boston.

[genesayssitdown.livejournal.com]

also consider that flights are much, much lower when they're flying over east boston and chelsea, then by the time they reach davis square.

[surrealestate.livejournal.com]

I don't understand this sort of comment at all. I grew up just as close to an even larger and twice-as-busy-as-Logan airport (with another large airport closeby as well) and did not experience as much plane noise as the last few years in Davis Square.

It also completely ignores the fact that it's a *new* problem, so obviously no, it wasn't something someone could have expected and plenty of neighborhoods that are just as close to Logan don't have this issue.

[zenala.livejournal.com]

I grew up 10 miles from an airport and experienced *more* noise, and never heard people complain about it.

I really don't get the problem. And like I said, the planes go directly over my house.

What I do notice is that I sit on the runway at Logan much less than I used to 10 or 12 years ago, and don't spend as much time circling around the airport before landing, either. I'll take extra noise as a fair trade-off to that. On top of that, the airport is easier to get to than it used to be. What's not to like?

[surrealestate.livejournal.com]

In the areas the OP refers to, the noise is loud enough to wake up sleeping people even with all the windows closed. Seriously, you were ten miles from an airport and it was worse than that? If it was really worse than that, I can believe that you never heard anyone complain, but I can't believe that nobody *did*. There weren't the same sort of internet whine-fests back then, after all.

Personally, I have been woken up early by the plane noise and have had it be loud enough to interrupt conversations in the living room because people couldn't hear each other. Even so, I'm not actually all that bothered by it on the whole, but I have great compassion for those who are. I find it hard to believe that the people who insist it's no big deal (and shouldn't be to anyone) have actually experienced much of the noise the complainers are talking about.

(I was woken up this morning as well, but mostly dozed through it thinking a raging thunderstorm was going on. Very confusing when I noticed how sunny it was.)

[aroraborealis.livejournal.com]

Let me preface my comment by saying that I don't mind the plane noise, and I am happy to mock people who do.

However, the argument that the noise is a good trade-off for less time circling in the air or waiting at the airport or what-have-you is a bad one, because not everyone gets to make that trade-off. It works for the set of people who both live in areas of increased plane noise AND who fly or use the airport such that things are better now than they were. For the many, many, many people who live in areas where plane noise is a factor of daily life and who can't afford or otherwise have life circumstances that don't provide for travel by plane, this isn't a trade-off.

[clevernonsense.livejournal.com]

The planes go directly over my apartment as well and I'm a bit closer to the airport than davis--so I assume the planes are even closer to the ground here. I don't think it's an issue--it's not exceptionally loud.

[surrealestate.livejournal.com]

See my response to zenala above.