[identity profile] billharnois.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] davis_square
Airplane noise is up 3X in Davis area this year. This is confirmed by Somerville Transportation Equity Partnership (STEP) and our mayor. You may or may not have read the articles in the news. Both STEP and our mayor have encouraged people who are annoyed by the noise, to call this number and complain:

(617) 561-3333

Here is some more info:

http://www.somervillestep.org/mt/mt-search.cgi?search=logan

The more people that call and complain the better chance we have in getting a reduction in overhead flights (so we're told).

If you don't care about the increase, or don't care about planes flying by every 40 seconds, please read all of the witty responses below instead.
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Date: 2007-09-12 02:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cutieyum.livejournal.com
We at East Arlington have been hearing them too. I work from home, and it has been non-stop in the morning...

Date: 2007-09-12 02:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cutieperson
clearly you missed the last many debates on this topic.

Date: 2007-09-12 02:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] overstim.livejournal.com
planes have to take off in a certain direction according to the weather conditions. Theyre not going to stop if every hipster in Davis complains every hour on the hour. Buy some headphones and suck it up, progress marches on! :)

Date: 2007-09-12 02:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] two-stabs.livejournal.com
I Can't help but think... "wah, wah, wah." I'm sorry.

Date: 2007-09-12 02:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rufinia.livejournal.com
If the weather is bad, then the people flying should have to wait.

What? Seriously? If the weather is still good to fly, then the planes need ot fly. Cancelling flights just because of a little rain or unfavorable wind in certain directions is a good way to fuck up air traffic all over the country.

Suck it up, buttercup. The world does not revolve around the hipsters of Davis Square.

Date: 2007-09-12 02:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rufinia.livejournal.com
I'm not sorry.

Date: 2007-09-12 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kpht.livejournal.com
If the weather is bad, then the people flying should have to wait.

Sorry, but the entire aviation industry is not going to lose money because you don't like some noise. And I'm pretty sure the tens of thousands of passengers that would be affected (not only at Logan, but across the country, as these delays spread quickly) would be pretty pissed, too. I'm going to go off on a limb and say that if you were traveling for business and just wanted to get home after a long day, and your flight is already delayed, and the captain announced that even though the runway is clear, the flight will be cancelled because some dick 6 miles away wants silence in his neighborhood - you'd be pretty pissed.


FWIW, I work in Everett, which is also along the new flight path, but closer to the airport. While it's certainly noisy enough to notice (but not bother me) while I'm outside or in my car, I can barely hear them as soon as I'm inside a building.

Date: 2007-09-12 02:56 pm (UTC)

Date: 2007-09-12 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stagnicity.livejournal.com
"If the weather is bad, then the people flying should have to wait."

People waiting in airports/planes getting delayed/huge ramifications throughout the entire US flight system which stem from even a single delay=worthwhile so you don't have to hear planes on occassion?

Honestly.


Anyway, if this is a permanent change, then it's semi-justified to get upset/get involved. However, the planes have to go SOMEWHERE, and where should they go instead? NIMBYism is often a rather selfish attitude to take in regards issues like this (unless you also want to end air travel entirely); the planes have to go somewhere, and who else should have to hear them? Almost without exception, it's low-income families who live in areas that already have problems and couldn't afford to choose to move out of just to avoid planes overhead.

If you think that's OK, then say so. If you don't, propose something better.

Date: 2007-09-12 03:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chenoameg.livejournal.com
I don't actually think it's a new problem, I think that there have been a number of days when the weather is such that the planes take off over Somerville. I've certainly noticed it on and off since I moved to this house 9 years ago (I moved to Somerville 11 years ago, but I didn't notice any plane noise when I was living next to the commuter rail tracks, go figure.)

That being said it is true that nothing will change if we don't complain.

Date: 2007-09-12 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snowwand.livejournal.com
"Suck it up, buttercup" is now one of my fav. phrases :) It just rolls off the tongue

Date: 2007-09-12 03:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ifotismeni
eh, yea, this came up a while ago and a bunch of us complained. i wrote a complaint in to logan and about a month later i get this really fat envelope from them -- a letter replete with weather pattern pictures and lengthy explanations about rerouting plane flights when winds come from a certain direction.

i've been noticing the noise too but it's really intermittent. certainly it was kind of bad yesterday but otherwise we go at least a week or more with no noticeable noise.

Date: 2007-09-12 03:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agreeleyo.livejournal.com
Search google for "loud plane noise somerville" and you will find plenty of editorials on plane noise.

"For now, both Curtatone and Port Authority officials are asking residents disturbed by planes flying overhead to record their complaints. Curtatone asked citizens to call the city’s 311 line while Leo said people should call the Port Authority’s noise complaint line at (617) 561-3333." (From the Somerville News)

Date: 2007-09-12 03:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enochs-fable.livejournal.com
I just tagged your post with community issues. Anybody know what (if anything) previous airplane complaints were tagged with?

quiet neighborhood

Date: 2007-09-12 03:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enochs-fable.livejournal.com
No, the community is hardly pro-noise. However, there's not a lot of tolerance for ill-thought out comments like This is a new problem to Somerville. We didn't choose to live in Winthrop where this is expected. If the weather is bad, then the people flying should have to wait

It's not a new problem, as others in the thread have indicated.

[livejournal.com profile] agreeleyo's post below contains the number you should call to complain.

Date: 2007-09-12 03:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kpht.livejournal.com
The dick part comes in when you want tens of thousands of people to be far more negatively effected than you are because you want something small out of life. Living in a society sometimes means the needs of the majority are put over the wants of the minority.

Date: 2007-09-12 03:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rufinia.livejournal.com
I'm not pro-noise. I just know that there are other people in the world than me, and that, as the philospher Jagger once said, "You can't always get what you want."

From: [identity profile] chenoameg.livejournal.com
The article from the Somerville Journal with the mayor encouraging people to report plane noise:
http://www.townonline.com/somerville/homepage/x1087978235

A July post on LJ about plane noise:
http://community.livejournal.com/davis_square/888724.html

Date: 2007-09-12 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jenaflynn.livejournal.com
I noticed it too this morning, and honestly, being sept 12th, it creeped me out just a little bit. (Thought something bad was up.)

Although having previously lived in Wisconsin, you almost never heard planes overhead.. But then again, it was also a cultural blackhole.
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